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Is Dan Mullen the most underachieving coach in the nation?
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:28 pm
I know the man coaches a team in the hardest conference (SEC WEST (yes you just read that right)) but it seems he is very underachieving. At State, he is 7-22 I believe against teams with winning records and haven't beaten a SEC team that finished with a winning record since Florida in 2010.
With all the hype when he came to State and their fans dreaming of a chance in the big show one day, is Dan Mullen the most underachieving coach in the nation?
With all the hype when he came to State and their fans dreaming of a chance in the big show one day, is Dan Mullen the most underachieving coach in the nation?
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:29 pm to Indfanfromcol
I'd say Lane Kiffin is worse but what do I know
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:30 pm to Indfanfromcol
Seems to be achieving about right where I would expect based on MSU's program and history. Maybe even over achieving a tiny bit.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:30 pm to Indfanfromcol
This post was edited on 2/13/13 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:32 pm to Indfanfromcol
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With all the hype when he came to State and their fans dreaming of a chance in the big show one day, is Dan Mullen the most underachieving coach in the nation?
He is the winningest State coach after 4 seasons since the 1940's and only the 2nd with a winning record after 4 seasons
You need to remember- those teams with the losing records used to beat State
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:38 pm to Indfanfromcol
Underachieving? What exactly did you expect him to achieve at this date and time in the SEC west?
He's 8-3 against the SEC east... and he's broken down a bunch of negative streaks at MSU. There are 2 remaining -- the LSU streak and winning in the state of Arkansas.
We are not and never will be disappointed with the RESULTS of this year. We were disappointed with the gutless effort of the team down the stretch. We don't expect to win every game, but we damn sure do expect to be the most physical team on the schedule that plays with as much heart as anyone. We didn't see it at the end of the LSU game last year, and we didn't see it the last 6 games this year. THAT is how you get run out of MSU -- you certainly don't by going 29-22.
He's 8-3 against the SEC east... and he's broken down a bunch of negative streaks at MSU. There are 2 remaining -- the LSU streak and winning in the state of Arkansas.
We are not and never will be disappointed with the RESULTS of this year. We were disappointed with the gutless effort of the team down the stretch. We don't expect to win every game, but we damn sure do expect to be the most physical team on the schedule that plays with as much heart as anyone. We didn't see it at the end of the LSU game last year, and we didn't see it the last 6 games this year. THAT is how you get run out of MSU -- you certainly don't by going 29-22.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:42 pm to Indfanfromcol
No. He's at a little brother school in Mississippi. Enough said.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:42 pm to Indfanfromcol
I'd say he's the most overachieving coach in the nation. It's fricking State bro, it's supposed to be impossible to win there.
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/18/13 at 2:13 pm to Indfanfromcol
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I know the man coaches a team in the hardest conference (SEC WEST (yes you just read that right)) but it seems he is very underachieving. At State, he is 7-22 I believe against teams with winning records and haven't beaten a SEC team that finished with a winning record since Florida in 2010.
Keep in mind that Mullen hasn't faced many 'middlin' SEC teams with 7-5/8-4 records. Nearly all of them have been Top 15 or better.
2009 was his first year after Croom. State had the toughest overall schedule in the nation. Lost to a top LSU team by 2 yards. Beat a 9-win Ole Miss team. Beat a 7-6 Kentucky team that had gone 3-5 in the SEC. Also beat a 10-3 MTSU team, so Mullen had 3 wins over FBS teams with a winning record in his first year. Two more than Freeze.
In 2010 Mullen beat everyone but the Top 15 SEC West teams he faced. He beat an 8-win Florida team in the Swamp and a UGA team that went 3-5 in the SEC.
In 2011 State faced 11-win USC and 10-win UGA from the East, plus very good Bama/LSU/Ark. Auburn was a middlin SEC team that year, and State lost there by less than a foot.
This year State faced Auburn and Arkansas plus two East teams with losing records. Beat all four. The only 'middlin' SEC team State faced was 7-6 (3-5) Ole Miss. Lost away.
Bottom line is that the sample size is still too small to conclude anything with a limited restriction like "SEC team with a winning record". All of the losses to middlin SEC teams have been away games, which are always tougher.
Otherwise, it's simply ignorant if you're going to malign Mullen for losing to Top 15 teams in his first four years as a head coach at Mississippi State.
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 1/18/13 at 2:41 pm to Indfanfromcol
Of course not, hes going to Oregon to replace Kelly
Posted on 1/18/13 at 2:58 pm to Indfanfromcol
That distinction will always be attributed to Mark Richt. Always.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 3:08 pm to Indfanfromcol
Mack brown agrees with this
Posted on 1/18/13 at 3:15 pm to Indfanfromcol
Posted on 1/18/13 at 3:15 pm to Indfanfromcol
He's great. I hope he stays there forever.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:26 pm to Indfanfromcol
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With all the hype when he came to State and their fans dreaming of a chance in the big show one day, is Dan Mullen the most underachieving coach in the nation?
yes
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