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ThaKaptin
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


Very possible, I just wasnt around, or was too young to have a clue, for most of those years.





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FlukerFlakes
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


That's how schedules were done back then. Some years team had more games than other teams. In 1976, the extra game Bama played actually cost them the SEC title to UGA. Bama was 5-2 and UGA was 5-1. This was only the 2nd year in the entire 1970's that Bama didn't win the SEC crown.


In 1969, Auburn actually was the one with 7 SEC games and Bama only had 6. So stop with the usual butthurt conspiracy laden Auburn talk






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ThaKaptin
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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In 1969, Auburn actually was the one with 7 SEC games and Bama only had 6. So stop with the usual butthurt conspiracy laden Auburn talk



I love it when someone pops in with an interesting stat like this out of no where and bursts someone's bubble. It just makes me giggle.



This post was edited on 1/3 at 1:51 pm


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Cdawg
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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The first I remember of it being actually tied in was in 1992 when the Bowl Coalition was started. It could have been started before this but that was the earliest I remember people actually talking about the tie in.

That is the first I remember as an official tie-in also. I forgot about the bowl coalition days and how it had to put in non SEC schools. VA Tech/TExas in '95.






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WDE85
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


If LSU who was 6-0 and Alabama who was 7-0 were co-champs, then why were Auburn, 6-1, and Alabama, 7-1, not co-champs?





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USMC Gators
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


Maybe Auburn had a bowl ban or something?





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RollTide1987
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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For example, in the 60s all the Big Ten schools played exactly 7 conference games.


The Big Ten conference was also established nearly 40 years before the Southeastern Conference. The SEC was only 30 years old in the 60s. Maybe that had something to do with it?







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RollTide1987
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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If LSU who was 6-0 and Alabama who was 7-0 were co-champs, then why were Auburn, 6-1, and Alabama, 7-1, not co-champs?


Maybe they went by highest ranked team back then? I don't know.







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Cdawg
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


win pct?





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FlukerFlakes
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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If LSU who was 6-0 and Alabama who was 7-0 were co-champs, then why were Auburn, 6-1, and Alabama, 7-1, not co-champs?


Do you not know math?

6-0 and 7-0 = 100% winning %

6-1 = 85.7%
7-1 = 87.5%

7-1 is a better record than 6-1.

This isn't hard.






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WDE85
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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In 1969, Auburn actually was the one with 7 SEC games and Bama only had 6. So stop with the usual butthurt conspiracy laden Auburn talk
No one is saying Alabama was the only one who did it. In fact, we are saying the opposite. And in the case of 1969, that 1 extra SEC game hurt them and gave them an extra loss, whereas if they had not had that they would've been co-champs.






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I-59 Tiger
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


Auburn actually helped Alabama with the Sugar Bowl following the 1978 and 1979 seasons. The contract did not have a provision for ties other than "most recent appearance" rule that the Cotton with the SWC and Orange with the Big 8 had.

The "Goal Line Stand" almost didn't happen. Had Georgia beaten Auburn instead of tying them in '78, 22-22, Georgia at 6-0 would have gone to the Sugar instead of 6-0 Alabama.10-1 Alabama almost went to the Fiesta. Now, you would have thought the SEC and Sugar Bowl would have addressed this in the off-season but they didn't.

At least the 1978 Georgia team was a good one. 9-1-1 and ranked. Again, it came down to the Georgia-Auburn game with Georgia at 5-0. This time Georgia had lost ALL of their OOC games, Wake Forest, Clemson, South Carolina and Virginia. They were 5-4 and a win over Auburn --even with a loss to Tech the following week would have put them in the Sugar. But, Auburn won, 33-13.






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WDE85
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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7-1 is a better record than 6-1.
7-0 is a better record than 6-0.






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FlukerFlakes
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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7-0 is a better record than 6-0.


The SEC crown was given based on winning %






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I-59 Tiger
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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then why were Auburn, 6-1, and Alabama, 7-1, not co-champs?


Rule only applied if teams were unbeaten.






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Yellerhammer5
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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No one is saying Alabama was the only one who did it. In fact, we are saying the opposite.


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How do you think Bear Bryant won so many SECC? He scheduled an extra SEC game every year. Pretty damn smart if you ask me.






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WDE85
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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Yellerhammer5
He didn't say Bama was the only one who did it. Bama just did it more than anyone else.






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RollTide1987
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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The "Goal Line Stand" almost didn't happen. Had Georgia beaten Auburn instead of tying them in '78, 22-22, Georgia at 6-0 would have gone to the Sugar instead of 6-0 Alabama.10-1 Alabama almost went to the Fiesta.


That wouldn't have stopped Alabama from playing Penn State. PSU was Independent in those days and had the pick of the litter when it came to bowl games. Bryant talked Paterno into accepting the Sugar Bowl invitation so it could be a #1 vs. #2 match-up. Had Alabama gone to the Fiesta Bowl the same thing might have happened there, too.









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RollTide1987
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


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Bama just did it more than anyone else.


'72 was the only year this was even an issue though. From 1971-1981, Alabama only lost 4 conference games. They were undefeated in conference play in 1971, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, and 1981.







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makersmark1
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Member since Oct 2011
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re: Can somebody explain to me the 1972 Season?


AU always played Ga Tech and many teams only played 10 regular season games.

In general, until the 1990's our base schedule was:

UT, MSU, Fla, UGA, and Bama in SEC

We also played Ga Tech EVERY year even after they left SEC






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