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re: How many football games does Mississippi State win in 2013?

Posted on 12/30/12 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 1:07 pm to
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No, I simply listed the example of the single largest donation in the state of Ms's history.


Great.

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Since i must spell this out for you, if you refer back to my original post, you will see a list of 7 or 8 names.


Which original post? I'm not digging through this. Link it. I'd love to read it. Thanks.

You're trying to cobble together a "MISSISSIPPI STATE IS RICH TOO DANGIT" argument, which is funny because it totally undermines the "we're good, salt of the Earth" people so many State fans like to make.

I think it's great that y'all are doing a fine job of raising money. We are too. We're just over halfway done with a $150M fundraising campaign and, as I said before, our endowment is the largest of any university in Mississippi. You're trying to prove some point, doing a poor job at it, and coming off looking kinda sad.

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the founders of one of the world's largest electronics companies


Peavey? I'd be surprised if it was in the top 50 largest electronics. It's cool that the founder went to State and all, but you're being misleading when you say that.

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one of the worlds largest kitchen appliance companies


Viking? It's certainly prominent, but it's like the Audi of kitchen appliances. They make high quality stuff, but it's not one of the largest companies.

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and the only graduate of any ms school to my knowledge to be on any Forbes list.


Who? And on what list? Genuinely curious. And do you mean to be on any Forbes list ever or just currently?

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math and logic are solid.


No, you think they are, but they aren't.

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After generations of dominating MSU financially, that time is at an end


Again, false. You're predicting the future and saying what you think will happen, but you don't know shite and neither do I.
Posted by engie
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:53 pm to
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Which original post? I'm not digging through this. Link it. I'd love to read it. Thanks.


The one you quoted originally -- when you dropped this gem:


Here was the full post in which you quoted:
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LOL, u mad. Show me some numbers that say anything different, Einstein. If it doesn't include your prominent alums, then it also doesn't include Mr Henry Mize, Leo Seal, George Bryan, Fred Carl Jr, Ronnie Parker, Hartley Peavey, Arthur Williams Jr, etc. Surely your argument isn't that OM has more mega-money boosters than MSU. If they did, you could show me where they drop multi millions at a time for your athletics program. Meanwhile, the Seals dropped $12 mil last year in a single check for the practice facility.


One damn booster, huh?

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our endowment is the largest of any university in Mississippi. You're trying to prove some point, doing a poor job at it, and coming off looking kinda sad.


Endowment funding is the longest-standing "statement" of wealth -- and consequently the one which takes the longest to change. Your endowment is $469 mil -- ours is $350 mil. Over the past 5 years, our growth rate has consistently outpaced yours by 5-8%/yr. More students graduating from MSU that are making more money on average over their lifetime makes this elementary in the long term. The numbers I posted show starting salary and mid-career salary. Even if OM can "fix" the starting salary deficit, it will take years to catch back up in the mid-career category.

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Who? And on what list? Genuinely curious. And do you mean to be on any Forbes list ever or just currently?


Arthur L. Williams, Jr. -- An insurance magnate whose original company merged to form Primerica and later in life a large shareholder in Citigroup. The most recent record of his wealth I can find says he's worth $1.4 billion.

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Again, false. You're predicting the future and saying what you think will happen, but you don't know shite and neither do I.


I'm going with the current decade-long trend, yes. Until you can(at the very least) close the student gap, there isn't much OM can do to change the trend. That won't happen quickly. The actual infrastructure isn't even in place @ OM to support many, if any, more students currently. As is, you have about 25k more living alumni than MSU does. At current graduation rates, that gap will be completely closed in just over a decade.

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You're trying to cobble together a "MISSISSIPPI STATE IS RICH TOO DANGIT" argument, which is funny because it totally undermines the "we're good, salt of the Earth" people so many State fans like to make.


Correct. The days of "poor ole MSU" are in the rearview. That mindset died with the Templeton regime. You will still meet some older fans like that -- but it's almost completely absent in my generation. I've never lived to see you dominate us in football, finances, or anything else for that matter. I missed the demoralization of Vaught and most of the games played in Jackson which provide the ultimate difference in the series.

I guess no "inferiority complex" was passed on to me from my parents -- while that's the only possible explanation for the OM "superiority complex" that's still very real.
This post was edited on 12/30/12 at 3:58 pm
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