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Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:47 pm to
Does he know they don't Trans-Ams or Pontiacs anymore?
Posted by BaylorBear93
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/8/12 at 1:22 pm to
Don't be surprised if he pulls a fast one and commits to the might Baylor Bears, #1 offense in the USA this year.
Posted by GalvoAg
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Posted on 12/8/12 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
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Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:20 pm to
Now you Bears had your lone football highlight with the upset of Kansas St. a few weeks ago.

Now to see what your school does best, get back to women's basketball.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
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Posted on 12/8/12 at 5:10 pm to
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Now to see what your school does best, get back to co-ed basketball.


FIFY
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:15 pm to
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Sumlin is putting some unreal talent around JFF, it should be unreal around his Junior year.



agreed, but you need OL and defense, otherwise you become Arkansas under Petrino. aTm is getting too enamoured with skill positions. Recruit the beef or you will be middle of the pack.
Posted by zachcopp
Dallas
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:48 pm to
We are recruiting the beef as well. We have four 4* DTs committed for 2013. We have four athletic and big OL committed. We have something like 5 LBs committed and still trying to land the stud ILB from Hawaii who we lead for.

I completely agree on the premise that only recruiting skill position players turns you into Arkansas the last few seasons. I think however that we will have that skill position talent of Arkansas with the athleticism and beef necessary to compete in the front 7 on defense and continue to have a dominant OL
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 4:12 pm to
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agreed, but you need OL and defense, otherwise you become Arkansas under Petrino. aTm is getting too enamoured with skill positions. Recruit the beef or you will be middle of the pack.

The DL haul is arguably the strength of a very strong 2013 class.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 4:53 pm to
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The DL haul is arguably the strength of a very strong 2013 class.



DT, not so much DE, and DT's are one of the hardest if not the hardest position to project.

A couple examples.

LSU

5* DT- Al Woods (barely even started his senior season)
5* DT-Chris Davenport (has yet to see the field)
4* DT-Joseph Barksdale (became a damn fine OT)

Miami-5* DT, one of the top 10 players in the country out of Northwestern HS Marcus Fortson had an okay freshman season and never had a season better.

Florida-5* Torrey Davis didn't get to play much, gets kicked off the team.
5* DT Gary Brown kicked off team

Florida St.-5* DT Jacobbi McDaniel

Michigan-5* DT William Campbell isn't even projected in the top 20 DT's in this years draft as he is finishing up his senior season at UM.


Also, look at Taylor Bible at UT, guy is just too fat to play, was also a 4*.

Plenty of examples throughout CFB. Expect a fair portion of those guys to either not pan out or find their way some where else one way or another. Just expect it so you won't be disappointed if it does happen because it usually does. Thats what happens when you recruit good talent, there are plenty of risks.

See Hoza Scott, he already looks like a behavioral risk. Great player no doubt, plenty of questions.
This post was edited on 12/9/12 at 5:36 pm
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:16 pm to
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Plenty of examples throughout CFB. Expect a fair portion of those guys to either not pan out or find their way some where else one way or another. Just expect it so you won't be disappointed if it does happen because it usually does. Thats what happens when you recruit good talent, there are plenty of risks.

Why are you arguing the law of averages as a gambit to trivialize A&M's DL class?

Of course everything is speculative. Of course guys may not pan out.

So what?

As evinced by your examples--notwithstanding your cherry picking--that reality isn't exclusive to Texas A&M.

Recruiting isn't a science--you do the best you can with what you've got. We're all playing that game.

I just have no idea why you think this is relevant to whether A&M's DL class is the strength of the entire 2013 class. It's tough to project--we know. So you index your confidence to account for the risk. Either way, we're all dealing with the same issues.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:17 pm to
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See Hoza Scott, he already looks like a behavioral risk. Great player no doubt, plenty of questions.

Johnny Football got popped for petty theft his senior year in high school.

Behavioral risks are an inherent, invariable part of recruiting for every school.

Water is wet.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

Why are you arguing the law of averages as a gambit to trivialize A&M's DL class?

Of course everything is speculative. Of course guys may not pan out.

So what?

As evinced by your examples--notwithstanding your cherry picking--that reality isn't exclusive to Texas A&M.

Recruiting isn't a science--you do the best you can with what you've got. We're all playing that game.

I just have no idea why you think this is relevant to whether A&M's DL class is the strength of the entire 2013 class. It's tough to project--we know. So you index your confidence to account for the risk. Either way, we're all dealing with the same issues.



Because it seems as though many A&M fans believe that just because they have a good recruiting class they are automatically going to get better next year or just replace the guys leaving as if every player is going to be every bit he's hyped up to be.

Seen many "2013 A&M roster breakdowns" note freshman as a reason they will be "better" on defense or just replace 2 WR's who probably produced more than any duo of WR's in the history of A&M over their careers. Along with like 1 of the best OT's A&M has had in decades.

I assume this is all predicated on the fact that every player in A&M's class is going to be good and exactly what they're projected to be.

Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7223 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:10 pm to
Dude, the only reason fans follow recruiting is the hope it provides for the future.

You don't have a problem with Aggie fans, you have a problem with all fans who follow recruiting. You have a problem with all fans who don't think their program will come crashing down one year removed from a very significant season (arguably the most significant in te program's modern history).

You've done a poor job disguising your motives. Just come out and say it: A&M's success is very bothersome for you. The sooner the other shoe drops for the Ags, the happier you'll be.

But right now it looks like that show is going to stay suspended in the air for now. We're playing the game of recruiting extremely well. We're doing all we need to raise the profile of the program to a legitimate top 10 level. Will it happen? I don't know. We're all going to have to wait.
This post was edited on 12/9/12 at 10:14 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:46 pm to
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tiggerthetooth
for some reason you flame on every a&m thread across the rant. some recruits dont pan out? oh wow man. never realized that in my life. but lets also look at the top 10 programs in todays college football: lsu, oregon, bama, florida, usc, ohio state, georgia, oklahoma, notre dame, and florida state. now what do you think they all have in common? no shite every recruit doesnt pan out. but theres a reason why, generally speaking, that programs who recruit well have success.
This post was edited on 12/9/12 at 10:48 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145252 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:02 pm to
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agreed, but you need OL and defense
we just got the #1 defensive player in texas a couple days ago
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:12 pm to
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We have something like 5 LBs committed and still trying to land the stud ILB from Hawaii who we lead for.


I take this to mean Tommy Sanders is prettymuch ours - provided that Urban stays out of the way?
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7223 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:57 pm to
Sanders is yours.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61348 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:13 am to
quote:

for some reason you flame on every a&m thread across the rant. some recruits dont pan out? oh wow man. never realized that in my life. but lets also look at the top 10 programs in todays college football: lsu, oregon, bama, florida, usc, ohio state, georgia, oklahoma, notre dame, and florida state. now what do you think they all have in common? no shite every recruit doesnt pan out. but theres a reason why, generally speaking, that programs who recruit well have success.



I don't "flame" A&M threads, aggies just say really stupid things constantly in terms of where they stand, everyone on the board now knows it too. Its annoying as hell.


Top 10 Programs in college football. keyword PROGRAMS, schools with a great amount of talent, and recent success.

Whether you like it or not, TEXAS is an elite program, everyone knows they have top 5 talent currently.

Then LSU, Florida, Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio St., Florida St., Georgia, USC.

Yes, they recruit well, but they've been recruiting well for 5+ years, and over that time span they have players pan out, but from each class there are more than enough busts.


All the above schools have also had at least one season with 5+ losses in their time of great recruiting success.


You and every A&M fan make it seem certain you are going to out recruit everyone now and that will automatically translate into wins....when thats so far off its not even funny.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145252 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:00 am to
you are retarded and are the worst poster BY FAR on the rant. we can go back and forth but you will never change in your amount of stupidity. the fact that you think us recruiting well will do nothing for our program proves this when every other logical human being thinks otherwise. flame on idiot
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:50 am to
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Whether you like it or not, TEXAS is an elite program, everyone knows they have top 5 talent currently.


And all that top 5 talent has gotten them is an Alamo Bowl berth. Which, to the horror of their Wal-Mart t-shirt fan base, is an improvement over the prior two years.

And now they're genuinely concerned that their incoming 4* QB is not all people thought he was (couldn't stay healthy, and led his team to a 1-9 record in AA football), so now they're bringing in a JUCO transfer. The Longhorns could have SIX (that's not a misprint) QB's on their roster next season.
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