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re: Expansion Options
Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:26 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:26 pm to cardboardboxer
OU will never leave UT. Why because of the recruiting and exposure they get in Texas. Then you have the OSU issue the politicans in the state don't let them go without little brother.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 4:56 pm to Notre Dame Fan
Ok, several observations here:
1: A&M is now in the SEC. They are not being considered instead of anyone. As far as I can guess, the SEC is looking to add teams, not trade them, so any OU-A&M comparisons are irrelevant and pointless
2: Expansion has to be geographically feasible. The NCAA and Title IX require there to be more than 1 sport at a university, and to have a comparable number of women's sports. The SEC most likely isn't interested in a Big East-style several-sports only partner, it will want schools all in.
3: Expansion likely goes to 16, and stays there. So there are 2 spots to be filled.
4: Glamorous teams would be nice. Mizzou didn't add the wow factor; A&M was OK but not super-duper.
So, who's around? Clemson or Georgia Tech- about on the level of A&M, but don't add anything to the geography. You still have the Missouri problem (kind of distant with no real familiar opponent) unaddressed. Fla St, that's a pretty hot choice, but again it leaves Mizzou as an odd move. Oklahoma- as sexy as Florida St, and balances the geography of the conference. Mizzou doesn't have the rivalry with the Sooners a lot of other Big 12 schools do, but they do have that long Big 8 history together. Mizzou + A&M together, they bracket the Oklahoma schools, so there is continuity of travel for the fricking volleyball teams (A&M, Mizzou, Arky, LSU, Oklahoma-- this gives you a contiguous area where travel isn't obscene).
Those who say OU will never leave UT- you do realize this was said, with more certainty, about A&M, right?
1: A&M is now in the SEC. They are not being considered instead of anyone. As far as I can guess, the SEC is looking to add teams, not trade them, so any OU-A&M comparisons are irrelevant and pointless
2: Expansion has to be geographically feasible. The NCAA and Title IX require there to be more than 1 sport at a university, and to have a comparable number of women's sports. The SEC most likely isn't interested in a Big East-style several-sports only partner, it will want schools all in.
3: Expansion likely goes to 16, and stays there. So there are 2 spots to be filled.
4: Glamorous teams would be nice. Mizzou didn't add the wow factor; A&M was OK but not super-duper.
So, who's around? Clemson or Georgia Tech- about on the level of A&M, but don't add anything to the geography. You still have the Missouri problem (kind of distant with no real familiar opponent) unaddressed. Fla St, that's a pretty hot choice, but again it leaves Mizzou as an odd move. Oklahoma- as sexy as Florida St, and balances the geography of the conference. Mizzou doesn't have the rivalry with the Sooners a lot of other Big 12 schools do, but they do have that long Big 8 history together. Mizzou + A&M together, they bracket the Oklahoma schools, so there is continuity of travel for the fricking volleyball teams (A&M, Mizzou, Arky, LSU, Oklahoma-- this gives you a contiguous area where travel isn't obscene).
Those who say OU will never leave UT- you do realize this was said, with more certainty, about A&M, right?
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