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Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:54 am to NYCAuburn
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So aTm should have a much larger fanbase than LSU or most of the SEC schools
Correct. And we do. But it is very recent. The size of our fanbase caught up with the size of LSU's fanbase in the late 90s. Before that, it was so much smaller, that LSU would not even play in College Station.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:55 am to Bose Ikard
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In the 25 years from 1971 - 1990
This is what confused me
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:55 am to Bose Ikard
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orrect. And we do. But it is very recent. The size of our fanbase caught up with the size of LSU's fanbase in the late 90s. Before that, it was so much smaller, that LSU would not even play in College Station.
Are you just a little slow or full blown? serious question
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:56 am to Waffle House
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Hell, as of 2009, LSU was under 30k students
Thank God. How many college graduate illiterates do we need?
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:57 am to Bose Ikard
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A&M played LSU in Baton Rouge every year until 1975, because our fan base was too small to warrant a home-and-home.
We didn't play at A&M because yall were terrible. Of schools that participated in 85% of games between 1940 to 1980 at the Division 1 level, A&M had the 79th ranked winning percentage (48.7%).
If it makes you feel any better, we didn't hold home and homes with ULL, which by the way was ranked 66th at 52%.
Link to data
A large enrollment doesn't = a large fanbase and huge stadiums. Sure it helps, but you need to also be good.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:58 am to Bose Ikard
Of the top 10 largest fan bases in the country, only ND, Auburn, and Clemson don't have massive enrollments.
Notre Dame achieves a huge following despite a small alumni base because it is the flagship Catholic school
Auburn and Clemson are in states with no professional sports and lots of sports fans.
None of these exceptions apply to A&M. If A&M was ever going to get one of the largest fan bases in the country, it was going to have to do it through an alumni base. And that alumni base is JUST NOW filling up.
I don't see why this is so hard to understand.
Notre Dame achieves a huge following despite a small alumni base because it is the flagship Catholic school
Auburn and Clemson are in states with no professional sports and lots of sports fans.
None of these exceptions apply to A&M. If A&M was ever going to get one of the largest fan bases in the country, it was going to have to do it through an alumni base. And that alumni base is JUST NOW filling up.
I don't see why this is so hard to understand.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:58 am to Bose Ikard
Just so I don't have to wade through all this nonsense, somebody verify that I have the gist of the OP's point..............
"Here's some excuses for why we've sucked so long."
Am I close?
"Here's some excuses for why we've sucked so long."
Am I close?
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:58 am to RoscoeHarper
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This is what confused me
it goes along with every other conclusion and basis for the conclusion made by the op
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:59 am to Waffle House
Don't come at him with facts that make sense
TAMU going to the ship
Arky you have been replaced. These idiots are unbearable.
TAMU going to the ship
Arky you have been replaced. These idiots are unbearable.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:00 am to Bose Ikard
Another thing I don't get about the Aggie "we were a small school for so long" bit:
You claim this as a reason why Texas dominates the series record against you.
But if that's true, then where do you get off calling them TU, claiming you're older, better, etc? Were you significant before the 80's or not? You can't have it both ways.
You claim this as a reason why Texas dominates the series record against you.
But if that's true, then where do you get off calling them TU, claiming you're older, better, etc? Were you significant before the 80's or not? You can't have it both ways.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:03 am
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:02 am to LA kid but AU fan
Obviously, I meant 20 years. I believe I referenced it as 20 years later in the thread.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:06 am to Bose Ikard
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only ND, Auburn, and Clemson don't have massive enrollments.
And Bama, so 4 out of the top 10. seems like a small percentage of the top 10 if you ask me
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it was going to have to do it through an alumni base
Or do like most every other team and implement a wining tradtion
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And that alumni base is JUST NOW filling up
I am reverting back to my previous question, are you a little "slow"?
Your alumni/enrollment has been bigger than most schools in the SEC and the country for quite sometime. in fact your enrollment 30 years ago tops most of the schools current enrollments. So how is it just now filling up
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:06 am to Bose Ikard
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Am I close?
Dead on.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:08 am to Bose Ikard
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Are you just a little slow or full blown? serious question
Perhaps what is confusing you is that you don't understand the correlation between enrollment and fan base? The fact that LSU and A&M had generally the same enrollment in 1977 does NOT indicate that thy had anywhere close to the same fan base at that time, nor for the 15 years that followed. The fact that we had nowhere close to the same size fan base is seen in the fact that we had to sell them a home game every year.
Our enrollment caught up in the 70's, but it takes twenty or thirty years for a large enrollment to lead to a large fan base. A large enrollment is not needed for a large fan base if you are ND, or if you are the flagship school of a state without professional sports, but neither of those routes to a large fan base were available to A&M.
Hence, it too until the 90's for our fan base to catch up an surpass a school like LSU.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:09 am to NYCAuburn
quote:He is used to comparing himself to Texas and hasn't figured out how to make excuses for aTm's inferiority to the SEC schools yet.
Your alumni/enrollment has been bigger than most schools in the SEC and the country for quite sometime. in fact your enrollment 30 years ago tops most of the schools current enrollments. So how is it just now filling up
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:10 am to Bose Ikard
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Bose Ikard
You really are dumb.
Someone will take the time to deconstruct how mind blowingly stupid your last post was.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:10 am to Bose Ikard
Am I the only one with issues regarding the Nate Silver article and using that as proof that aTm has a large fan base?
Click the link... the guys uses google searches for "college football" as his basis for who is a fan of college football and the relative concentration of "college football" searches as the determinant for what regions have the highest proportion of CFB fans. That is ludicrous. Most semi-intelligent, semi-computer-literate CFB football fans would NEVER search for "college football." What kind of crappy results would that yield? Case in point, Birmingham has the highest per capita concentration of "college football" searches.
All Silver's article shows is which regions:
A. have a higher concentration of people who are
B. seeking vague information about a sport they are probably not that interested in and
C. don't know where to find said information and
D. suck at generating search terms
Other than the basic foundation the entire article is structured on, not too bad...
Click the link... the guys uses google searches for "college football" as his basis for who is a fan of college football and the relative concentration of "college football" searches as the determinant for what regions have the highest proportion of CFB fans. That is ludicrous. Most semi-intelligent, semi-computer-literate CFB football fans would NEVER search for "college football." What kind of crappy results would that yield? Case in point, Birmingham has the highest per capita concentration of "college football" searches.
All Silver's article shows is which regions:
A. have a higher concentration of people who are
B. seeking vague information about a sport they are probably not that interested in and
C. don't know where to find said information and
D. suck at generating search terms
Other than the basic foundation the entire article is structured on, not too bad...
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:13 am
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:11 am to Bose Ikard
thankszzz!~~~
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:11 am to Bose Ikard
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Perhaps what is confusing you is that you don't understand the correlation between enrollment and fan base? The fact that LSU and A&M had generally the same enrollment in 1977 does NOT indicate that thy had anywhere close to the same fan base at that time, nor for the 15 years that followed.
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That there is a correlation between enrollment and alumni base is undeniable. That there is a correlation between alumni base and fan base should be obvious as well.
Well, which is it? Your argument seems to be changing/evolving to try to keep up and plug the holes in your original premise.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:12 am
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