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re: Auburn guys, I need some info on some fraternities
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:16 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:16 pm to TeLeFaWx
I agree about that negative aspect of frats you described. The people in my fray and others that took themselves seriously were incredibly annoying. I disagree however with the sentiment that frat members are "buying friends" which is a common insult. I know many frat members who were active for 2 years, made some good friends, and got out as an active because they weren't gung ho over it and could still visit the house when they wanted to.
As for "blacking out", I could never understand how it could happen until it happened to me once. I was a light drinker late in high school so I didn't have a big tolerance early on college. I went from sober to dangerously drunk in probably a 30 minute span during a swap when active were pouring hard liquor down out throats. I had little to eat that day leading up to it and blacked out yet kept functioning for a couple of hours in which I don't remember. I ended up in the hospital that night and am lucky I didn't quietly gobto sleep somewhere or I may have died. Alcohol under the wrong conditions is perfectly capable or blacking you out or worse all by itself which is why I often found the "I was roofied" myth a little too convenient when it's used.
As for "blacking out", I could never understand how it could happen until it happened to me once. I was a light drinker late in high school so I didn't have a big tolerance early on college. I went from sober to dangerously drunk in probably a 30 minute span during a swap when active were pouring hard liquor down out throats. I had little to eat that day leading up to it and blacked out yet kept functioning for a couple of hours in which I don't remember. I ended up in the hospital that night and am lucky I didn't quietly gobto sleep somewhere or I may have died. Alcohol under the wrong conditions is perfectly capable or blacking you out or worse all by itself which is why I often found the "I was roofied" myth a little too convenient when it's used.
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:41 pm to Govt Tide
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I agree about that negative aspect of frats you described. The people in my fray and others that took themselves seriously were incredibly annoying. I disagree however with the sentiment that frat members are "buying friends" which is a common insult. I know many frat members who were active for 2 years, made some good friends, and got out as an active because they weren't gung ho over it and could still visit the house when they wanted to.
I mean A&M is a special case. It didn't have frats or the longest time, and therefor it isn't really ingrained in the culture. Meaning it isn't widespread, and there are a lot of social situations outside of the culture. I feel like I have a pretty good handle on frats because I knew soooo many from high school that I still consider friends. I know a former; rush chair of Lambda at OU, treasurer of Fiji at OU, president of Pi Kap at LSU, pledge trainers of Delt and Pike at tu, members at Ole Miss, Auburn, and Florida. I know many more that are casual friends or some closer friends all over.
I will say a glaring difference between all those schools and A&M is the amount of guys in the frats, and the diversity they are able to maintain from frat to frat.
For what it's worth, I've never understood the whole "buying" friends thing either. You are paying to party. Jealousy, imo. What I do think that frat culture does wrong repeatedly throughout all the instances I've seen is really foster a culture of self importance. Which by no means is a knock on frat culture, as it is a natural reaction for lots of male social groups, but I do think frats do an especially bad job of recognizing when they are out of line, and even encourage the behavior to foster their own delusions. That is one area where I think money does play a factor, as I've never seen daddy's money flaunted at a bar by a drunk guy causing a scene, unless it was a frat guy.
I'll give you an example of the tail end of a conversation I heard between a tu frat star and an Aggie frat star one recent Thanksgiving at a football game.
teasip: Are they good here?
Aggie: They think they are, that's why their blood ends up on the pavement at Northgate every weekend.
How many levels of douchey is that? How do people take themselves that seriously?
Now this is not an indictment of frats outside o the personal incidents I have ever seen. You can't make generalities about huge groups of people like that. But you agree with me about the negative aspect of frats, so people on both sides recognize an issue. O well. I am long gone from college and don't really care. My only concern is that my sons don't ever act like I've seen some frat stars do, and I hope they don't ever do it because the frat makes them feel like they are supposed to behave that way.
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