re: Next SEC Stadium Expansion? Texas A&M or Missouri?

Which forum is the most active for Mizzou? Not including the one with the black background.

A&M's big problem right now is which way to go forward.

Both the East and West three decks are outdated, have concourses that are too narrow, no longer meet various code ordinances or disability laws, and are underpinned by plumbing and electrical infrastructure from the 1920's. They both have to go. That's 75% of the stadium.

SO, the decision they're making, with the help of Populous, is whether we should tear down the East and West stands at once and play a season or two in Reliant in Houston, or build a new stadium across the railroad tracks in West Campus.

You'll see if you come for a game this year... Kyle is decently large (we've stacked 90K in there before) but it is a woefully outdated concrete monolith with no amenities and the deferred maintenance is obvious.

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Since when has doing it in phases been taken it off the table?

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You'll call me a BSer, so blast away, but from what I've been told, allusions to a plan to tear down and rebuild in stages have always just been lip-service to local businessowners and Aggies in Dallas, who they need to appease up until they annouce how they're really going to do it, at which point it will be too late for them to raise a ruckus capable of derailing anything.

Doing it in stages would be less efficient, more expensive, and a general cluster.

They've already conducted a study that with the increased suite revenue, increased club seat revenue, and increased ticket revenue from general tickets (due to increased ticket VALUE of every seat being a chairback) and a split of parking, they'd make MORE money off of a season or two in Reliant than they would playing in College Station with Kyle as-is, and ESPECIALLY more money if capacity was drastically reduced by rebuilding in stages. Houston is THE employment Mecca for Aggie grads, so they're not worried about selling out.

You have to figure in lost revenue as a cost. That's why there's only two real plans - a tear-down and play in Houston for a season or two plan and a play in Old Kyle while New Kyle is built plan. Both of those are at least revenue-neutral.

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You'll call me a BSer, so blast away, but from what I've been told, allusions to a plan to tear down and rebuild in stages have always just been lip-service to local businessowners and Aggies in Dallas, who they need to appease up until they annouce how they're really going to do it, at which point it will be too late for them to raise a ruckus capable of derailing anything.

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I believe it all except this. Obviously they have done plans and economic studies.

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Houston is THE employment Mecca for Aggie grads, so they're not worried about selling out.

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Also seems like you're talking out of your arse a bit on this point. Generally, when you have 30,000 students on hand, Kyle only seats about 50k former students. What percentage of those are Dallas Ags? A third? How many students do they reasonably think will buy tickets for "home" games in Houston? Not 30k. No where close.



I don't believe they would make more money than an As-Is Kyle. Absolutely no way. Reduced capacity? Maybe and probably.

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just call them the outcasts.

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And as you call us outcasts, your name is a Mizzou boy.

ETA: sunydaze, "sell-out" at Mizzou is misleading. Our GA tickets are hill seating, on the grass, yet those "seats" are counted in the capacity. We often sell out seats, but not GA. Yet, the hill with the rock "M" is a tradition, so at least part of it will remain in a stadium expansion.

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I actually believe the plan is to expand to 83-85000 seats. Hopefully thats actual seats, so that would be an increase of about 20,000 seats.

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Link?

I think A&M's is going to be a long renovation process over the course of 3-4 years. A&M has no interest in leaving College Station, forcing students to drive to Houston or anywhere else, and taking that local economic value away from College Station.

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I actually believe the plan is to expand to 83-85000 seats

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Link indeed. Where did you hear that?
I don't think we need to expand that much atm anyway.

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I don't believe this is true.

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We need to add boxes/suites and significantly renovate what we have.

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This is more like it

I think that fellow is blowing smoke up your asses. I just don't see the need to expand mizzous stadium to that size. Not right now at least, maybe in 5-10 years. You guys just don't have the draw at the moment. It would be like Baylor expanding Kyle field north to 90k (not that I'm inferring mizzou is comparable to Baylor, because, well, frick that place). I base this on the fact that your attendance records are from the 1980s. No doubt it'll grow in the coming years however.

Also, I believe in focusing on one thing at a time and I just don't see the feasibility in logistics with a destruction/rebuild from late January-early August for 3-4 years. Plus it wouldn't be a complete rebuild as the north zone would be preserved. As was stated the east and west sides look absolutely terrible.