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re: Actual Texts Starting to Come Out Now
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:15 pm to Bellabama
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:15 pm to Bellabama
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I thought the FOI only did actual emails and a record of texts.... Will someone explain?
At least in the state of Arkansas, FOI requests are like subpoenas, but they work for public officials, and unlike subpoenas, they have to be answered in a reasonable amount of time, usually three days.
If there's a record of it, it's up for grabs. So it's a question of whether or not was saved. Emails are usually saved on a main or backup server, but texts are usually deleted regularly. There is no reasonable expectation to save every text message, so if I had to guess, a reporter FOI'd the text record of Petrino between a set amount of dates. If Petrino turned in his phone, they should all be there. (There may be another mechanism in place, I'm not sure.)
The screenshots from arkansassports360 look like they were pulled off the originating phone. (I use an iPhone, so my texts are always on the right. The Petrino texts are on the right.) From where I sit, it looks like these are from the actual phone. If these were from AT&T, they would be in a different format, just straight up text on paper. Unless of course some art director at arkansassports360 did a mockup. I would hope not.
If that's the case, whatever is left on the phone is fair game, I imagine. Don't expect pictures or videos if he deleted them. They're gone. That's why you didn't know what Nutt sent to whatsherface from 40/29. They were probably gone, or the guys doing the FOIing only asked for the phone record. You have to be specific.
This is just from my experience. I've only done a few FOI requests, most in person, and most were complied with right away. So, maybe that's an answer to your question.
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Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:16 pm to whataboar
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If that's the case, whatever is left on the phone is fair game
Which is a complete joke on the part of the Arkansas media for releasing all of this shite.
No good can come of it, all they are doing is hurting his family more and more by leaking details of his texts no one should really ever see other than them.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:20 pm to whataboar
THANK YOU! 
Seems like he would have erased his phone before he turned it in.
Seems like he would have erased his phone before he turned it in.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:22 pm to UltimateHog
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Which is a complete joke on the part of the Arkansas media for releasing all of this shite.
No good can come of it, all they are doing is hurting his family more and more by leaking details of his texts no one should really ever see other than them
They aren't employed by the University of Arkansas. Their job is to deliver information to people, not be judge of whether or not it will hurt someone. They are doing their jobs.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:23 pm to UltimateHog
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No good can come of it, all they are doing is hurting his family more and more by leaking details of his texts no one should really ever see other than them.
I agree. It's incredibly intrusive, especially for the people who are unfortunate to have been called by him. I still can't believe he was dumb enough to use his phone knowing the records could be seen.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:23 pm to UltimateHog
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No good can come of it, all they are doing is hurting his family more and more by leaking details of his texts no one should really ever see other than them.
Wrong, they are further validating Long's decision, especialy since he is receiving death threats now. It will get far far worse before all is said and done.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:24 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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They are starving for attention.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:24 pm to Ice Cold
sorry
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:24 pm to MaroonNation
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Wrong, they are further validating Long's decision, especialy since he is receiving death threats now. It will get far far worse before all is said and done.
Seems like there is something in the middle. I understand your point, but it's a lot to put innocent people through.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:25 pm to UltimateHog
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They are starving for attention.
Attention=website hits, papers bought, better ratings, more money. I guess you're right, but that's the nature of the industry everywhere. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:25 pm to MaroonNation
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they are further validating Long's decision
Wrong, Long already validated it more than enough.
All they are doing is getting some twitter hits, some website hits, and getting attention the media loves at the expense of Petrino's family, Dorrell's family, and her ex-fiance's family.
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:27 pm to whataboar
The content of messages from state owned phone to state owned phone is considered far game but the contents between state owned & private party phone off limits ?
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:28 pm to Bellabama
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Seems like there is something in the middle. I understand your point, but it's a lot to put innocent people through
The media is driven by the sensational. What is sensational sells. If you are an up and coming media type in NWA and you have ambitions of a Pulitzer and getting out of NWA these kind of things punch your ticket...
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:28 pm to MaroonNation
I know, but the law doesn't need to enable their drive for our entertainment...
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:29 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Don't hate the player, hate the game.
And, Bobby is giving them everything they are finding. Petrino is at fault for all of this, don't forget that.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:30 pm to chilld28
Chilld28, the resource for everything Arkansas.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:31 pm to UltimateHog
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Which is a complete joke on the part of the Arkansas media for releasing all of this shite.
No good can come of it, all they are doing is hurting his family more and more by leaking details of his texts no one should really ever see other than them.
...except you don't know where the trail leads or what it leads to unless you follow it.
I well remember people complaining loudly about 2 PITA loser reporters obsession with a botched burglary back in the early '70's.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:31 pm to MaroonNation
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And, Bobby is giving them everything they are finding. Petrino is at fault for all of this, don't forget that.
Exactly. While it may be a bit sensational, they're simply relaying information
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:31 pm to Bellabama
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I know, but the law doesn't need to enable their drive for our entertainment...
You are enjoying this, admit it damnit
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:31 pm to Woopigsooie20
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Chilld28, the resource for everything Arkansas.
Might as well do something constructive. I've been looking at the damn computer for 12 hours a day/ 7 days a week for almost a month now for work 
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