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re: A&M fans (regarding Texas)

Posted on 2/12/12 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/12/12 at 6:49 pm to
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There's no coach, college or pro, who has more dramatic and mind-numbing collapses by his teams over his history as an offensive coordinator and head coach than Mike Sherman.


- Still managed to pump back solid and somewhat consistent recruiting in his tenure, after it was was completely destroyed by Fran.

- Managed to beat OU, Nebraska, and tu all in the same season. Something that hadn't happened since Colorado did it on the way to a National Title.

- By the player's own account, reshaped, and refocused the number 2 overall pick in Von Miller, Defensive Rookie of the Year

- Managed to develop a QB most likely going in the top 10 of the NFL draft in Ryan Tannehill.

- Recruited the Lou Groza Award winner, and likely NFL kicker, Randy Bullock.

- Recruited Jeff Fuller, Cyrus Gray, Jake Matthews, Luke Joeckel, Christine Michael, Ryan Swope, Coryell Judie and Cedric Ogbuehi who most people believe will play in the NFL. Terrence Fredrick is invited to the combine and will be a 7th rounder or a UFA.

- TJE has something to prove, but he might play on Sundays. I have a feeling DaMontre Moore, Drew Kaser, Howard Matthews, Trey Williams, and Floyd Raven also have an outside shot at the league.

- He made a concentrated effort to redevelop and reestablish recruiting ties to Louisiana high schools. By many accounts, he did a far greater job of that in Texas, where Fran wasn't too popular. Also outreaching to many Mississippi JUCOs, developing pipelines in other states.

- He spearheaded and donated a million dollars to our new player development center, kick starting the desperate renewal of our facilities.

- He made great coaching hires in Terrell Williams, Tim DeRuyter, Jim Turner, and Tom Rossley.


Mike Sherman's greatest short comings, by his own admission, was his in game micro managing. When the season started to crumble, and the 3rd quarter problems creeped in, Mike Sherman was too busy running through plays as his offensive coordinator duties trumped his head coaching duties. The 2011 Aggie Football team was an extremely talented bunch that lacked much leadership. Offseason workouts lead by the seniors of the team was probably one of his worse mistakes, as that Okie State game when the season began it's slide was centered on a third quarter that was marked by 40 offensive plays by Oklahoma State, and 5 by Texas A&M, in an extrememly hot and humid day in College Station. Those 5 offensive plays where A&M surrendered the lead, and it's most promising season in 15 years? A freshman wide receiver cramped out of his break on an easy third down conversion, and the same receiver fumbled the ball after running 50 yards down the middle of the field, erasing field goal position for a game decided by one point.

- Mike Sherman wasn't the greatest head coach of all time, but he was building a program the right way, he was recruiting great talent, and he will be unfairly judged for the mistakes made by his teams.

My belief, until I see otherwise, is that Kevin Sumlin will be a disastrous failure. I think his offense is dumb and he hasn't recruited well.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4253 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 6:54 pm to
TeLaFeWx, your hero Mike Sherman batted .500 as a Head Coach.

The man you think will be a big failure is a two-time College FB Head Coach of the Year candidate.

Maybe you can't really evaluate college coaches?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80804 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 10:23 pm to
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Managed to beat OU, Nebraska, and tu all in the same season. Something that hadn't happened since Colorado did it on the way to a National Title.


Poor measure. When you only play one of those teams twice every four years, it's a poor indicator.

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Trey Williams


If you're going to claim that anyone who committed to A&M before November of 2007 is a Sherman recruit, then Trey Williams is a Sumlin recruit.

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Also outreaching to many Mississippi JUCOs
Didn't land a single one.

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He spearheaded and donated a million dollars to our new player development center, kick starting the desperate renewal of our facilities.


Fran did that too.

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A freshman wide receiver cramped out of his break on an easy third down conversion, and the same receiver fumbled the ball after running 50 yards down the middle of the field, erasing field goal position for a game decided by one point.


Kenric McNeal was a junior last season. But don't let facts get in the way of a load of bullshite.

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Mike Sherman wasn't the greatest head coach of all time, but he was building a program the right way, he was recruiting great talent, and he will be unfairly judged for the mistakes made by his teams.


9 double digit second half leads blown in four seasons. That's all that needs to be said.

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My belief, until I see otherwise, is that Kevin Sumlin will be a disastrous failure. I think his offense is dumb and he hasn't recruited well.


Hasn't recruited well? You lose any and all credibility here. Just because he didn't retain Sherman's grade risks (which wouldn't have been able to sign regardless), doesn't mean he can't recruit.

Sumlin landed 5 four-stars that Sherman couldn't.

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