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Ole Miss and MSU won't play Southern Miss?
Posted on 2/10/12 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 2/10/12 at 9:46 pm
https://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/02/10/big-12-football-any-interest-in-southern-miss/
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A Southern Miss fan emailed me Thursday. Wanted me to drum up some support for the Golden Eagles to get consideration for Big 12 expansion. I have to admit. I hadn’t really thought of Southern Miss. So I told him I would consider the candidacy of Brett Favre’s alma mater. The University of Southern Mississippi is in Hattiesburg, 111 miles north of New Orleans. Its enrollment is 17,968. USM is in Conference USA and has played solid football for decades. Southern Miss doesn’t get any respect from the Southeastern Conference. Which is not unusual for a mid-major in the middle, geographically, of a power conference. USM has played Alabama 42 times but never in Hattiesburg. Southern Miss is 4-17 against Bama in the last 30 years, beating the Crimson Tide in 2000, 1993, 1990 and 1982. Ole Miss won’t play Southern Miss. From 1966 through 1984, the in-state rivals played every year but once. Southern Miss won five of the last seven meetings, and that was the end of that. Mississippi State won’t play Southern Miss. From 1964 through 1990, they played every year but twice. Southern won 12 of the last 16 meetings. LSU has played Southern Miss once since 1951. Auburn has played Southern Miss 22 times, but never in Hattiesburg and only once since 1993; the Eagles have beaten Auburn five times, including 1990 and 1991.
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Posted on 2/10/12 at 9:46 pm to texasaggie08
ole miss is scared of the 2nd best team in da sip.
state is above playing the 2nd best team
state is above playing the 2nd best team
Posted on 2/10/12 at 9:49 pm to texasaggie08
We've got them scheduled in 2014,15. I believe those are the years.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 9:53 pm to texasaggie08
When was the last time A&M has played TCU?
Posted on 2/10/12 at 10:30 pm to texasaggie08
Ole Miss has said repeatedly we will play Southern Miss. We just won't play in Hattiesburg, period. When we say this USM immediately stops negotiations. There is no reason Ole Miss should travel to Hattiesburg to play them. It would be like LSU traveling to Ruston to play La. Tech. There's not a positive thing that can come out of it.
This post was edited on 2/10/12 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:03 am to texasaggie08
Because little, bitty USM would win 3 out of 4.
OM and MSU like to pretend they are SEC contenders.
OM and MSU like to pretend they are SEC contenders.
Posted on 2/11/12 at 9:27 am to texasaggie08
To compare apples to oranges here when us the last time aTm (SEC) played Houston (CUSA)?
Posted on 2/11/12 at 9:48 am to texasaggie08
This is what's wrong with Southern Miss fans and the other haters out there, you all think it's about "fear." It's about economics.
Ole Miss stands to gain NOT A frickING THING by playing a CUSA team in Hattiesburg. Period.
Ole Miss stands to gain NOT A frickING THING by playing a CUSA team in Hattiesburg. Period.
Posted on 2/11/12 at 10:18 am to texasaggie08
There is no good reason for either State or OM to play So. Miss. Such a match-up gives all of the benefits So. Miss and only provides State/Ole Miss risk of embarrassment.
Posted on 2/11/12 at 1:22 pm to texasaggie08
Post less.
Posted on 2/11/12 at 1:23 pm to texasaggie08
Alabama quit playing them in 2005. We had played them every year from 1980-2005. Every game was in Tuscaloosa or Birmingham. We also played them in Mobile and Montgomery in the 40s and 50s.
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:01 pm to texasaggie08
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Lose lose situation either way.
This.
Grew up in HB and trust me, id love nothing more than for Ole Miss to play at "The cRock" and there be 20-25k OM fans in there at the very least.
However, the matchup has been put on hold since the 80s because the rivalry got so nasty and honestly their fans hate Ole Miss with the ferocity of a thousand fires. I mean HATE. It got to where it was a lose-lose for OM to play them. There are numerous examples of this throughout the SEC btw.
Ill be the first to say kudos to State for playing them because I'd be all for it.
Posted on 2/12/12 at 9:43 am to texasaggie08
USM wants MSU and UM to play a game in Hattiesburg to help them finance their athletic program. They can only get about 26,000 to show up for their home games. Why should the other two in-state schools leave all that money on the table? It's good business to play those OOc games at home.
Posted on 2/12/12 at 12:03 pm to texasaggie08
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Golden Eagles to get consideration for Big 12 expansion
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Ole Miss won’t play Southern Miss. Southern Miss won five of the last seven meetings, and that was the end of that.
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Mississippi State won’t play Southern Miss. Southern won 12 of the last 16 meetings.
Posted on 2/12/12 at 12:20 pm to texasaggie08
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Southern Miss won five of the last seven meetings, and that was the end of that.
They love to tell themselves this is the reason we don't play them anymore.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:16 am to texasaggie08
I feel like the Big XII will only be viable and successful if it is able to garner a new, large market. Large land grant schools with a love for football seem to be the ideal model, but the Big XII ran off 4 of those, and replaced it with TCU and WVU. WVU is tiny and far away, and TCU is a small small small and very very very expensive private school.
TCU would have honestly been a great school to add if it wasn't for it being small and private. A&M has a 24 game win streak against TCU, which should give you a reference for how they did in the SWC.
I want the Big XII to be successful. I don't want it to dissolve. I want them to be the considered the 4th strongest conference year in and year out, and when we play tu on Thanksgiving again, we pound them.
I think getting back to 12 is important, but they don't really have viable options. The key being Notre Dame. Wait. What? Notre Dame to the Big XII? No I'm not saying that. Notre Dame will never give away the regional and national rivalries it has to play in Waco, Lubbock, Ft. Worth, Aimes, Manhatten, Lawrence Morgantown and Stillwater. They already have contracts with OU and tu, why would the ever lock themselves in to terrible games, they would have to give up traditional games to do it. It makes zero sense.
What I am saying is that the conference is taking on a brand of it's own, in part due to the SEC's dominance. As an Aggie, the conference pride thing is a new deal to me, but I think it is becoming increasingly important.
This is what I mean by Notre Dame. My belief is that the age of the 16 team super conference will only ever be kick started by them. With a B1G/Pac 12 agreement. They join the B1G, you have a permanent cross conference rivalry, weird accommodations, etc.
At that point, with expansion of the B1G, the Pac 12 might look at the tu/Tech/OU/OSU package again.
If not, and the Big XII does expand to 12... who is even on the table? Louisville? Memphis? So Miss? Tulane? Houston? SMU? Nevada? New Mexico State? Tulsa?
If they had forward thinking, I would think they aim for Houston and Tulane. Just aim for big cities with NFL stadiums you could borrow. If this current arrangement somehow stays still for say 10 or 20 years... people are still going to want to go to road games, and even though your conference is shitty, you still have the DFW/Houston metropolitan areas, which are both football crazy, and are the 4th and 6th largest in the country, and growing at faster rates than all others in the top 10.
TCU would have honestly been a great school to add if it wasn't for it being small and private. A&M has a 24 game win streak against TCU, which should give you a reference for how they did in the SWC.
I want the Big XII to be successful. I don't want it to dissolve. I want them to be the considered the 4th strongest conference year in and year out, and when we play tu on Thanksgiving again, we pound them.
I think getting back to 12 is important, but they don't really have viable options. The key being Notre Dame. Wait. What? Notre Dame to the Big XII? No I'm not saying that. Notre Dame will never give away the regional and national rivalries it has to play in Waco, Lubbock, Ft. Worth, Aimes, Manhatten, Lawrence Morgantown and Stillwater. They already have contracts with OU and tu, why would the ever lock themselves in to terrible games, they would have to give up traditional games to do it. It makes zero sense.
What I am saying is that the conference is taking on a brand of it's own, in part due to the SEC's dominance. As an Aggie, the conference pride thing is a new deal to me, but I think it is becoming increasingly important.
This is what I mean by Notre Dame. My belief is that the age of the 16 team super conference will only ever be kick started by them. With a B1G/Pac 12 agreement. They join the B1G, you have a permanent cross conference rivalry, weird accommodations, etc.
At that point, with expansion of the B1G, the Pac 12 might look at the tu/Tech/OU/OSU package again.
If not, and the Big XII does expand to 12... who is even on the table? Louisville? Memphis? So Miss? Tulane? Houston? SMU? Nevada? New Mexico State? Tulsa?
If they had forward thinking, I would think they aim for Houston and Tulane. Just aim for big cities with NFL stadiums you could borrow. If this current arrangement somehow stays still for say 10 or 20 years... people are still going to want to go to road games, and even though your conference is shitty, you still have the DFW/Houston metropolitan areas, which are both football crazy, and are the 4th and 6th largest in the country, and growing at faster rates than all others in the top 10.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 4:12 pm to texasaggie08
A much better question is: when is TAMU going to schedule Ark State again?
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