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re: WVa & TCU > A&M & Mizzou

Posted on 1/5/12 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/5/12 at 11:52 am to
Lots of interesting (and predictable) responses, however, the OP said nothing about AAU, Academics, Fan Base, Brands, Potential, or any of that other crap. What I am talking about is performance on the field. And I don't care about 20 years ago, but am looking at recent history (since 2000).

TCU: BCS Bowls - 2 (1-1)
Wva: BCS Bowls - 3 (3-0)
Mizzou: BCS Bowls - 0
A&M: BCS Bowls - 0

In terms of performance on the field, the evidence is clear that adding TCU & West Virginia to the Big 12 has made it a stronger football conference. I'll even go 1 step further - Either TCU or WVa is better than either A&M & Mizzou in football. The Big 12 just became a better football conference.

Now you can argue all you want about potential and all that other stuff. Potential just means that you haven't done it yet.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7224 posts
Posted on 1/5/12 at 12:04 pm to
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In terms of performance on the field, the evidence is clear that adding TCU & West Virginia to the Big 12 has made it a glorified Big East. I'll even go 1 step further - Either TCU or WVa is better than either A&M & Mizzou in beating shitty teams that A&M nor Mizzou ever play. The Big 12 just became an even more watered down conference but I hope this band-aid buys Mack enough time to squeeze another MNC in before the whole thing goes to shite.


FIFY
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9516 posts
Posted on 1/5/12 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Lots of interesting (and predictable) responses, however, the OP said nothing about AAU, Academics, Fan Base, Brands, Potential, or any of that other crap. What I am talking about is performance on the field. And I don't care about 20 years ago, but am looking at recent history (since 2000).

TCU: BCS Bowls - 2 (1-1)
Wva: BCS Bowls - 3 (3-0)
Mizzou: BCS Bowls - 0
A&M: BCS Bowls - 0

In terms of performance on the field, the evidence is clear that adding TCU & West Virginia to the Big 12 has made it a stronger football conference. I'll even go 1 step further - Either TCU or WVa is better than either A&M & Mizzou in football. The Big 12 just became a better football conference.


@ using WVU BCS bowl records when they get free passes every year because of the weakness of the Big East.

What about the season where WVU was ranked below Mizzou in the BCS ranking but went ahead of them to BCS games because of the idiocy of the system?
Or this year when they get to play Clemson in a 'BCS bowl' while K-St. and Arkansas get pushed to the Cotton Bowl?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 1/5/12 at 12:59 pm to
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The Big 12 just became a better football conference.


You're telling us this in a year where the Big12 conference champion got shut out of the title game so two schools from the SAME conference end up playing for the crystal football? And the Big12 is losing (another) one of it's biggest brands to the same aforementioned conference?

What your post lacks in substance, it makes up for in balls. Props
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 1/5/12 at 1:10 pm to
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In terms of performance on the field, the evidence is clear that adding TCU & West Virginia to the Big 12 has made it a stronger football conference.

It saved the Big 12 for the time being.
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I'll even go 1 step further - Either TCU or WVa is better than either A&M & Mizzou in football.

That's a close call. Missouri and A&M will continue to improve. Recruiting will improve for them as well,imo.
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The Big 12 just became a better football conference.

The Big 12 lost Nebraska, Colorado, A&M, and Missouri. There's a reason for this. The SEC lost NO teams. The Big 12 isn't as strong as they were but they're not collapsing, just weakened.
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Now you can argue all you want about potential and all that other stuff. Potential just means that you haven't done it yet.

Are you kidding? The SEC is strong EVERY year. There's a good reason for that as well. The addition will benefit Missouri and A&M and their addition will make the SEC even stronger.
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