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Why can't Auburn's secondary fly around and make plays like...
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:52 am
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:52 am
LSU's, Bama's, Florida's, etc...
It seems like since we lost Muschamp, our secondary just doesn't fly around and make plays. We didn't do it under Paul Rhoades, and we sure as hell aren't doing it under Roof.
We have obviously recruited well the past 2 classes, and you would think one of them would be out there making plays (i.e, Tyrann Mathieu as a true freshman and sophomore).
We never gets INTs, we hardly ever tip passes away, etc... It seems like the the players are in position, sometimes. But they never make the play. Then, sometimes, people are running wide open. When I watch LSU, Bama, and Florida, they don't have just one player around the ball - They have 2 and 3 making plays on the ball.
Thoughts, Auburn fans? I think we need to clean house on the defensive side. Roof needs to be gone for sure, and Thigpen may also be a problem. Just my opinion. I'm tired of this sorry arse defense.
It seems like since we lost Muschamp, our secondary just doesn't fly around and make plays. We didn't do it under Paul Rhoades, and we sure as hell aren't doing it under Roof.
We have obviously recruited well the past 2 classes, and you would think one of them would be out there making plays (i.e, Tyrann Mathieu as a true freshman and sophomore).
We never gets INTs, we hardly ever tip passes away, etc... It seems like the the players are in position, sometimes. But they never make the play. Then, sometimes, people are running wide open. When I watch LSU, Bama, and Florida, they don't have just one player around the ball - They have 2 and 3 making plays on the ball.
Thoughts, Auburn fans? I think we need to clean house on the defensive side. Roof needs to be gone for sure, and Thigpen may also be a problem. Just my opinion. I'm tired of this sorry arse defense.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:53 am to TTsTowel
Lack of talent.
You miss McNeill. And Thorpe, McNeal, etc aren't Mattheiu, Kirkpatrick, Menzie, Claiborne, etc.
You miss McNeill. And Thorpe, McNeal, etc aren't Mattheiu, Kirkpatrick, Menzie, Claiborne, etc.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:54 am to TTsTowel
Anddddddd Bates is more concerned with using the hit stick than actually making the freaking tackle.
I guarandamntee that he bumped Lil Jon on the reg as a kid.
I guarandamntee that he bumped Lil Jon on the reg as a kid.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:54 am to TTsTowel
We have Ron Cooper
Bama has Saban
UF has Muschamp
/thread
I guess chizik needs to develop more thorp winners.
Bama has Saban
UF has Muschamp
/thread
I guess chizik needs to develop more thorp winners.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:56 am to TTsTowel
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clean house on the defensive side.
Long overdue
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:57 am to TTsTowel
I've heard Thig is around because he can recruit. I wish Chizik would just fire Teddy today and do it himself. I honestly think I could do a better job... And I'm just a poster on TD.com.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 10:00 am to TTsTowel
I think it has a lot to do with the style of defense you guys play. It seems you play a lot of base cover 2 and that is a read and react defense. Bama and LSU play more press coverages.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 10:05 am to TTsTowel
Gene Chizik is your problem, not Ted Roof. Other than '04 Auburn, where has he had a defense that was any good at stopping teams from scoring? Even at Texas in 2005 his defenses had trouble stopping people. The offense, not the defense, was the strength on that team as well.
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 10:16 am to TTsTowel
Because y'all are Auburn. Be happy y'all bought a NC last year but don't expect to be a consistently great football team ever or you will just be disappointed.
Remember...Little Brother is what Auburn football is all about.
Remember...Little Brother is what Auburn football is all about.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 10:40 am to TTsTowel
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I can't understand how Chiz was so good at Aub.. Tex.. but can't get it goin now as HC.. put Roof at lesser position & take over.. I would be mad too if Saban had Def. like that too.. sad dude..
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:04 am to TTsTowel
IMO, its not because you dont have the athletes because you guys recruit as well as anybody. Therefore, it has to be on the coaching side.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:30 pm to TTsTowel
Utah State's players were much bigger than ours...plain and simple. You have T. Bell trying to tackle someone who's as big as a TE its not going to work so well.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:53 pm to TTsTowel
Well, Antonio Coleman said it best.
"It's about ballin'. You have to get out there and make plays and fly around and have fun. If you want to get all these grades and stuff, go to school to get your grades."
"It's about ballin'. You have to get out there and make plays and fly around and have fun. If you want to get all these grades and stuff, go to school to get your grades."
Posted on 9/4/11 at 2:05 pm to TTsTowel
I saw Auburn run a ton of Cover 2 and Cover 3. Not only do they run a ton of Cover 2 and Cover 3 but they are terrible at disguising the coverage. On top of that it looks like AU's D uses a spot drop tecnique. If they are pattern reading it sure as heck doesn't look like it. Take a look at the 3rd and 20 that USU converted. If they were pattern reading that middle backer would have turned and run with that receiver flashing behind him, but he just drop to his spot and waits and doesn't react until after the pass is thrown.
Auburn stayed in the base Cover 2 pretty much the whole first half. Auburn did that a ton last year, and that's why you see teams just chew up big chunks of yardage throwing the swing screen to the slot receiver. Classic counter to a base cover 2 as your outside backer has lost leverage to the slot receiver based on his alignment and that pretty much leaves a 2 on 1 on the corner.
Alabama runs a lot of cover 1 robber with pattern reading on the zone drops. LSU and Alabama are also very good at leveraging the receivers before the play even starts. What does pattern reading mean? When a receiver passes into your zone your basically cover him man to man. But the more important aspect of this is that there are pretty much 10-15 popular route combinations you may see out of a particular set, so in pattern reading you learn to identify the pattern the receiver is running which should give you a good idea what pattern another receiver is running, which with proper training allows you to better pass coverage of receivers between zones. With spot dropping a well trained receiver will know how to settle into the holes in the zone and a well trained QB will know how to exploit the throwing lanes.
Auburn stayed in the base Cover 2 pretty much the whole first half. Auburn did that a ton last year, and that's why you see teams just chew up big chunks of yardage throwing the swing screen to the slot receiver. Classic counter to a base cover 2 as your outside backer has lost leverage to the slot receiver based on his alignment and that pretty much leaves a 2 on 1 on the corner.
Alabama runs a lot of cover 1 robber with pattern reading on the zone drops. LSU and Alabama are also very good at leveraging the receivers before the play even starts. What does pattern reading mean? When a receiver passes into your zone your basically cover him man to man. But the more important aspect of this is that there are pretty much 10-15 popular route combinations you may see out of a particular set, so in pattern reading you learn to identify the pattern the receiver is running which should give you a good idea what pattern another receiver is running, which with proper training allows you to better pass coverage of receivers between zones. With spot dropping a well trained receiver will know how to settle into the holes in the zone and a well trained QB will know how to exploit the throwing lanes.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 8:29 pm to TTsTowel
Roof fricking sucks. The talent is there. He insists on playing cover 2 zones when either he sucks @ teaching it, or our players just suck @ reacting. Observing from the stands our db's were more than capable of sticking the USU receivers across the board. When we went man-man in the 2nd half they werent beat very often. There were like 3 times in man-man where the receiver ran a perfect slant off a bump and the qb made a perfectly timed pass. The next play we were back in the Tampa 2. Usually, i concede to the coaches knowledge because theyve been around more football than i can imagine. frick that. Roof needs to go. I dont even care what that does with recruiting.
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