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Posted on 8/22/11 at 6:39 am to Cosmo
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What record gets Mark Richt fired this year?
Don't worry about it. He is not getting fired!
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:10 am to DrSEC
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Do you not agree that most people who have sources are full of crap?
Probably, but what about the handful that aren't? I know you only have 20 posts but I've shown in the past that I do have some idea of what I'm talking about.
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It is very inconceivable that anyone on this board has ANY clue
Why? Why is that so hard to believe?
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a magic number that doesn't exist.
How do you know it doesn't? You say I'm full of crap, well aren't you just as wrong for REFUSING to believe that there actually might be a benchmark set?
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the people that matter say you are full of crap.
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No way in this world they fire Richt without a disastrous season AND a big name available.
What do you consider disaster? I will guaran-fricking-tee you if we go 6-6 Richt gets fired. Hell 7-5 will get him fired too, 8-4 as well.
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a fairly new AD is going to
Richt in all likelihood wasn't fired after last year because of our "new" AD, among other reasons. He's not new anymore.
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tell Richt he has to win 9 games before the season starts
He did.
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What if he won 8 but made it to the SECC?
Anyone with half a brain and a little common sense would realize that the benchmark is probably a fluid situation. If we won 8 games yet by a miracle won the SEC, I have no idea what the plan of action would be. Obviously that's not a likely situation though.
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What if they started 8-1 and Aaron Murray went down with an injury (God-forbid) and they dropped the next three. Is he gone?
Another extenuating circumstance. What if we start 0-2 then Richt goes into a 6 month coma, will he be fired? I don't know man.
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BE ON ALERT!!!! ANYONE WHO STATES THEY KNOW A MAGIC NUMBER OR SOMEONE THEY KNOW HAS THE MAGIC NUMBER.........They are full of crap.
No, they aren't.
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it doesn't matter if you got a source within the team (which really means a former player or a made up friend)
My source is someone who is currently with the team. They were at all the offseason summer workouts, they are at every practice right now, they are watching mat drills in the winter, they are at dawgnight, they are in the lockerroom with the team, they are on the field for games. This person gave me a tour of the new Butts-Mehre 2 Saturdays ago and had to have his finger scanned just to gain entrance into the building. You don't have to believe me, but I have absolutely no reason to make this up.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:19 am to CapstoneGrad06
I normally do not comment on these sites but something you said really struck a chord with me. You legitimize the ineffectiveness of Richt by stating that we can afford to let the Georgia kids like Darius Hanks and Kellen Williams cross the state line because they really aren’t blue chip players anyway. While I am not familiar with Hanks, I am familiar with Kellen Williams as he went to the high school in my district. Williams is now the number two center for Alabama and heir apparent behind Vlachos (senior). Since Williams was not ‘worthy” of a Georgia Scholly then his leads me to a couple of scenarios: 1) Nick Saban is a magician and can turn sub-star players into top athletes that can compete (and win key positions) on a top 5 team 2) Nick Saban’s program is so far superior he can develop mediocre players into legitimate SEC contenders 3) Richt cannot evaluate talent or potential talent in any way shape or form. For instance, Williams was part of the 2009 signing class. That year Chance Warmack also from Georgia (had no offer from Georgia) signed with Bama as well and is a second year starter. Dallas Lee, and Chris Burnette (who received a schollys from Richt ) and neither has done anything for Georgia on an offensive line that is “hard up” for players. Both Warmack and Williams have somehow managed to work his way up the depth chart on a team that has enormous depth and superstar talent. In other words, they ain’t hurting for the cast offs from other states. No, Richt cannot evaluate players potential. Bottom line, as long as Saban has the foresight to see into the future and know which which players have what it takes to pan out, Georgia will never compete with them. As we roll into 2012 where Alabama is on our schedule, it will become even more apparent as the "Kellen William" types snap against us on gameday and ram it down our throat all the while flying the Alabama Flag and chanting roll tide. BYE BYE RICHT- We need new blood
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:30 am to patstoker
I just checked, Darius Hanks is the #1 Wide receiver for ALabama, guess we missed out on that one too. BYE BYE MARK, I'll sell your house for no commission just to get you the hell out of Athens!
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:46 am to Cosmo
Is CMR about to get fired when the play AU after being 8-2 with loses to an undefeated BSU and a Top 15 USCe team? He beat UT and UF at that point.
Tricky stuff assigning a number.
In this scenario, UGA would be at least tied for the SECE lead.
Tricky stuff assigning a number.
In this scenario, UGA would be at least tied for the SECE lead.
This post was edited on 8/22/11 at 7:48 am
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:50 am to parkjas2001
What ifUGA goes 6-2 in conference play, wins the East but loses to BSU and Tech...do you really fire the 8-4 coach who won the division?
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:05 am to WG_Dawg
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Why? Why is that so hard to believe?
Because only a handful of people have any say-so and they are tight-lipped.
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How do you know it doesn't? You say I'm full of crap, well aren't you just as wrong for REFUSING to believe that there actually might be a benchmark set?
Funny thing. I choose to believe the people who matter and they say they are just looking for improvement.
“I’m not here to put a figure in the number of wins or anything,” McGarity said during a teleconference with reporters. “We just want to see improvement, we want to see a program that’s headed in the right direction.”
Once again....it is not my word versus your word. It is every body that matters versus your word.
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What do you consider disaster? I will guaran-fricking-tee you if we go 6-6 Richt gets fired. Hell 7-5 will get him fired too, 8-4 as well.
You cannot guarantee nothing in regards to his firing. You are not on the board, the AD, or the President. Funny how fans think their opinion matters that much.
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Richt in all likelihood wasn't fired after last year because of our "new" AD, among other reasons. He's not new anymore.
We disagree.......well.....let's ask the President.
"“Our first requirement is to run the program properly. You will get in trouble at Georgia more for failure to do that rather than for having a bad season once a decade. “I think you look at a person’s whole body of work. And I think the whole body of work by Mark Richt the last 10 years is very strong."
ok....ok....let's ask Bob Bishop
"I remember back when Bear Bryant was coaching, he had a bad year and everybody was saying the game has passed him by. Biggest joke I’ve ever heard. He had a few bad years, but he had a few good years, too. All we need is one more point than Boise State and we’ll be on the road."
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Anyone with half a brain and a little common sense would realize that the benchmark is probably a fluid situation. If we won 8 games yet by a miracle won the SEC, I have no idea what the plan of action would be. Obviously that's not a likely situation though.
Winning 8 games and the SEC East is not that much of a stretch. Losses to BSU, Gtech, MSU, and Auburn but have wins over all of the SEC teams.
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Another extenuating circumstance. What if we start 0-2 then Richt goes into a 6 month coma, will he be fired? I don't know man.
You didn't say God-Forbid
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No, they aren't.
You can believe him or everyone that matters.
“He’s not in my hot seat; he’s still in my lap. I love him. I don’t think you can find a better human being anywhere and he’s a fine football coach. He’s proven that time and time again. Bob Bishop
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My source is someone who is currently with the team. They were at all the offseason summer workouts, they are at every practice right now, they are watching mat drills in the winter, they are at dawgnight, they are in the lockerroom with the team, they are on the field for games. This person gave me a tour of the new Butts-Mehre 2 Saturdays ago and had to have his finger scanned just to gain entrance into the building. You don't have to believe me, but I have absolutely no reason to make this up.
the janitors have to scan their finger. Seriously, are you that naive that you believe someone who meets the above criteria has access to the powers-that-be? I know this is going to crush your ego but think how stupid this sounds. A handful of people have a voice in a matter like this. They got together and came up with a magic number (which you said is fluid) and Gave it to Richt. He in return shared it with someone....who shared it with you bwwaaaa haaaaa.
Or....let's just pretend I am right. They actually meant what they said. They will evaluate it at the end of the year. Their hope is to find improvement.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:15 am to patstoker
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Williams is now the number two center
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Dallas Lee, and Chris Burnette (who received a schollys from Richt ) and neither has done anything
So you're saying that out of all 3 of these players, 2 have done nothing yet the guy who is 2nd string has apparently done something? Burnette is going to start this year and Lee is 2nd string as well. But apparently a 2nd string center has proven much more.
Btw are you kin to the Williams' or sparks?
This post was edited on 8/22/11 at 8:16 am
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:17 am to parkjas2001
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What ifUGA goes 6-2 in conference play, wins the East but loses to BSU and Tech...do you really fire the 8-4 coach who won the division?
I doubt we fire him for going to the SECCG. Again, 9 was the number that was speficially told to Richt, but OBVIOUSLY using some common sense that is not a hard and fast number. I would certainly think that an SECCG would trump the win number, but who knows?
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:24 am to DrSEC
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Because only a handful of people have any say-so and they are tight-lipped.
You think they go around with duct tape on their mouths all day? You don't think they talk about business in a business setting....like Butts-Mehre? Ya know, where their offices are and stuff? They probably talk about business in there.
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“I’m not here to put a figure in the number of wins or anything"
-"I will NOT be the head coach at Alabama" - Nick Saban.
-"The only way they're getting me out of Oxford is in a pine box" - Tommy Tuberville.
Don't be stupid enough to think McGarity would actually come out to the media and the world and say "Yep, Richt needs 9 wins or he's fired". Do you realize how completely dumb and unprofessional that would be?
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Once again....it is not my word versus your word. It is every body that matters versus your word.
Only people that actually matter, unlike you, have told me what I've said. So it's actually people that matter versus you. And you're wrong.
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the janitors have to scan their finger. Seriously, are you that naive that you believe someone who meets the above criteria has access to the powers-that-be?
And are you that got dang dense to realize that you MIGHT actually be wrong? Do janitors meet all the above criteria I stated? Do janitors have an office in BM and work for the team?
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A handful of people have a voice in a matter like this. They got together and came up with a magic number (which you said is fluid) and Gave it to Richt.
You're right so far...
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He in return shared it with someone....who shared it with you bwwaaaa haaaaa.
I'll give you all day to C&P where I said that's what happened. You made that last part up, and I've never specifically stated how I came about this information.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:25 am to WG_Dawg
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I doubt we fire him for going to the SECCG. Again, 9 was the number that was speficially told to Richt, but OBVIOUSLY using some common sense that is not a hard and fast number. I would certainly think that an SECCG would trump the win number, but who knows?
This is what makes the number thing so laughable. No way and Heck Aaron Murray gets hurt (God-Forbid) and he wins 8 games with Hutson Mason does he get fired. No way he wins the East and gets fire. I can list several other examples.
The point is, no way in this world GM goes to him and gives him a number. That is foolish. Bottom line.....and those wrong will not admit it.....there is no number. They will evaluate the season at the end and hope to find progress.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:26 am to WG_Dawg
WG - FWIW, I believe your post. It's always funny to me that people on this board won't believe that some of us know SOMETHING at least some of the time. shite if you're from BR like I am went to HS and college on campus, parents, cousins living in BR; it's hard not to know someone close to the program. 
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:26 am to WG_Dawg
Neither. Know the Sparks family for some time. Have met Kellen several times. Point being if you know the families then you know he was a Bama lock. However, Richt has let a lot of talent out of the state. That was the discussion I was replying to. I am not trying to take anything away from Lee or Burnette but rather point out that they are in the same boat as Williams in a tough conference not further ahead. If a kid can develop into a one or two in this conference then they have talent whether they are wearing Georgia or Bama. It is time for Richt to go.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:32 am to DrSEC
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I can list several other examples
Yeah I can list hundreds of hypothetical scenarios that would complicated things too.
-What if our starting 22 got killed in a bus crash?
-What if Sanford imploded and we had to play all our games in Atlanta?
-What if our top 4 running backs got hurt and we had to start a walkon?
Would he be fired?
Your questions don't prove anything.
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The point is, no way in this world GM goes to him and gives him a number
I know for a FACT that he has.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:34 am to patstoker
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am not trying to take anything away from Lee or Burnette but rather point out that they are in the same boat as Williams in a tough conference not further ahead. If a kid can develop into a one or two in this conference then they have talent whether they are wearing Georgia or Bama. It is time for Richt to go
ummmm, but they DID develop into a 1 or 2....
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:35 am to patstoker
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Know the Sparks family for some time
Me too, I grew up with them and was actually in Pat's wedding a few months ago.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:36 am to WG_Dawg
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You think they go around with duct tape on their mouths all day? You don't think they talk about business in a business setting....like Butts-Mehre? Ya know, where their offices are and stuff? They probably talk about business in there.
Not this kind. This is the kind that goes on at the Presidents office or board members home. But I am sure you're right and your janitor friend was walking by when the door was open.
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Only people that actually matter, unlike you, have told me what I've said. So it's actually people that matter versus you. And you're wrong.
First off.....you're correct I don't matter. I have no hope of being involved in the process. However, at the same time, you are FULL OF CRAP! Your janitor is not in on the discussions.
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And are you that got dang dense to realize that you MIGHT actually be wrong? Do janitors meet all the above criteria I stated? Do janitors have an office in BM and work for the team?
Well.....if you consider his janitor closet an office that is fine with me. Here is the issue. You might know someone there
-"I will NOT be the head coach at Alabama" - Nick Saban.
-"The only way they're getting me out of Oxford is in a pine box" - Tommy Tuberville.
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-"I will NOT be the head coach at Alabama" - Nick Saban. -"The only way they're getting me out of Oxford is in a pine box" - Tommy Tuberville. Don't be stupid enough to think McGarity would actually come out to the media and the world and say "Yep, Richt needs 9 wins or he's fired". Do you realize how completely dumb and unprofessional that would be?
So....I should believe that the president, board, and AD are not being truthful because Nick Saban tells lies?
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I'll give you all day to C&P where I said that's what happened. You made that last part up, and I've never specifically stated how I came about this information.
Because this is the beauty of message board wannabes. They throw things out there that no one can disprove because they are BS. You my friend have earned the doctors first TD
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:40 am to WG_Dawg
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I know for a FACT that he has.
ohhhhh a FACT. Well that settles it. Everyone is being dishonest because he knows for a fact. Granted there is no proof......no one knows who said it......or when they said it......but hey if the janitor said so.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:45 am to DrSEC
You are seriously fricking retarded. I'm done trying to have an intelligent conversation with you when there is NO POSSIBLE WAY you could be wrong and I could be right.
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