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Kiehl Frazier v. Brandon Allen. Who has the better career?
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:38 pm
This should an interesting story to follow over the next 4-5 years.
Arkansas has put out a few highly ranked QB's over the years (Gary Brashears, Mitch Mustain, Kodi Burns) but never two elite QB's in the same year. Much less two QB's that grew up within 10 minutes of each other. Will they succeed or will they both be busts like the three mentioned above?
Here are the stats for those who are unfamiliar with the two.
Kiehl Frazier -
-Committed to Auburn
-4*, Rivals #89 overall player
-#5 Dual Threat QB
-#1 Player in Arkansas
-Attended Shiloh Christian High School, former home of Auburn OC Gus Malzahn and former Auburn GA Rhett Lashlee
Brandon Allen -
-Committed to Arkansas
-4*, Rivals #180 overall player
-#5 Pro Style QB
-#3 Overall Player in Arkansas
-Attended Fayetteville High School and has basically grown up around the Razorback program as his dad, Bobby Allen, has been on the Arkansas staff for 14 years now.
No matter the arguement you want to make about who is better, each of these players ended up at the perfect schools to tailor to their abilites and both landed with arguably the top two offensive minds in the SEC.
Kiehl has basically been playing in a watered down version of GM's offense at Shiloh for the last few years and Brandon has lived around the Arkansas program learing BP's offense for the last three years.
Needless to say, due to their unique situations, both are probably two steps ahead of where the average freshman QB comes in to a system his first year.
Personally, I think both will be extremely succesful but Kiehl will have the more successful "career" as I think he will probably end up starting at Auburn by the end of this upcoming season. Brandon is going to sit behind Tyler Wilson for the next two years and won't have a real shot at the starting job until what should hopefully be his RS SO year. Brandon may have a more successful season or two once he gets in the lineup but he will be a year or two behind Kiehl in experience.
Arkansas has put out a few highly ranked QB's over the years (Gary Brashears, Mitch Mustain, Kodi Burns) but never two elite QB's in the same year. Much less two QB's that grew up within 10 minutes of each other. Will they succeed or will they both be busts like the three mentioned above?
Here are the stats for those who are unfamiliar with the two.
Kiehl Frazier -
-Committed to Auburn
-4*, Rivals #89 overall player
-#5 Dual Threat QB
-#1 Player in Arkansas
-Attended Shiloh Christian High School, former home of Auburn OC Gus Malzahn and former Auburn GA Rhett Lashlee
Brandon Allen -
-Committed to Arkansas
-4*, Rivals #180 overall player
-#5 Pro Style QB
-#3 Overall Player in Arkansas
-Attended Fayetteville High School and has basically grown up around the Razorback program as his dad, Bobby Allen, has been on the Arkansas staff for 14 years now.
No matter the arguement you want to make about who is better, each of these players ended up at the perfect schools to tailor to their abilites and both landed with arguably the top two offensive minds in the SEC.
Kiehl has basically been playing in a watered down version of GM's offense at Shiloh for the last few years and Brandon has lived around the Arkansas program learing BP's offense for the last three years.
Needless to say, due to their unique situations, both are probably two steps ahead of where the average freshman QB comes in to a system his first year.
Personally, I think both will be extremely succesful but Kiehl will have the more successful "career" as I think he will probably end up starting at Auburn by the end of this upcoming season. Brandon is going to sit behind Tyler Wilson for the next two years and won't have a real shot at the starting job until what should hopefully be his RS SO year. Brandon may have a more successful season or two once he gets in the lineup but he will be a year or two behind Kiehl in experience.
This post was edited on 7/6/11 at 1:42 pm
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Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:40 pm to TheCheshireHog
my belief on that is gonna come down to who maintains a better coheasive O-line and running game during that span.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:41 pm to TheCheshireHog
Probably Kiehl because he'll be starting 3, maybe 4 years.
But Allen may take over after Wilson is gone, so I think he'll have a very good career probably.
I personally think Allen is more college ready, and is a much better passer(it's not really close), but our depth will make him sit a couple years. He's not a bad runner, either.
But Allen may take over after Wilson is gone, so I think he'll have a very good career probably.
I personally think Allen is more college ready, and is a much better passer(it's not really close), but our depth will make him sit a couple years. He's not a bad runner, either.
This post was edited on 7/6/11 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:42 pm to TheCheshireHog
Hard to say...will depend on what kind of offense and what quality, 2, 3, and 4 years from now. I will go with Frazier...cuz I'm a homer.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:43 pm to TheCheshireHog
Should be fun to watch. Hopefully they both pan out. Kiehl will need Gus stays at Auburn for 3-4 more years to reach his full potential, IMO.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:44 pm to TheCheshireHog
Pike might put a damper on Frazier career. Future WR a la Burns possibly? However, Gus does like to run that BS offense so maybe Frazier wins the job this year.
As for Allen, don't know that he'll ever be the man here, I think Bobby brings in a top QB next year that takes over after Wilson/Mitchell era.
As for Allen, don't know that he'll ever be the man here, I think Bobby brings in a top QB next year that takes over after Wilson/Mitchell era.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:47 pm to TheCheshireHog
Posted on 7/6/11 at 3:08 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Kiehl Frazier v. Brandon Allen. Who has the better career?
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Posted on 7/6/11 at 3:11 pm to TheCheshireHog
Neither will be able to amount to what Relf will accomplish before he leaves!
Posted on 7/6/11 at 6:10 pm to TheCheshireHog
not reading this thread but I figured this would be a big bitching thread.
If frazier went to arkansas, arkansas fans would say hes better.
If Allen went to auburn, auburn fans would say hes better.
If frazier went to arkansas, arkansas fans would say hes better.
If Allen went to auburn, auburn fans would say hes better.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 10:14 pm to TheCheshireHog
Kiehl will. I think he's got the right attitude and will get more playing time.. I honestly don't expect much out of Pike.
This post was edited on 7/6/11 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:22 am to TheCheshireHog
By the time Frazier is a starter, Malzahn will be gone. Petrino will still be there when Allen plays so I'm going with Allen.
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