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Posted on 5/14/11 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/14/11 at 3:54 pm to
It is still illegal no matter where you get it and if you are getting it in Alabama you are contributing to criminal activity.

That having been said,if I had the say so I would legalize it and tax it. Subsidize it to start with to run the smugglers out of business it would be too cheap.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/14/11 at 4:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/14/11 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32354 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 4:45 pm to
Not to be disrespectful in any way but does anyone know the COD?
Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 5:22 pm to
Not yet, but everyone is assuming some kind of overdose, either drugs or alcohol.

If it turns out to be some kind of undiagnosed ailment (unlikely, I know, given the situation), I hope all these judgmental assholes will come back here and eat crow.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73023 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

I have never smoked weed or did any kind of drugs.


Weed is not a drug. It is a weed. Sure, it has mild drug-like effects but it is much milder than alcohol. I get tired of it being lumped in with pain meds, crack, heroin, X and other harder drugs. It is harmless and not even in the same ballpark.
Posted by Crimsoncutie98
Member since Oct 2008
15409 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 6:02 pm to
I didnt lump it in the same category. Just said I have never smoked it.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73023 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 6:20 pm to
You should try it, cutie. You would like it. It makes you think on a much higher level. And no hangovers involved.
Posted by Crimsoncutie98
Member since Oct 2008
15409 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 6:26 pm to
I'm good. That stuff is not for me.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 6:33 pm to
Good girl.

I don't mean that condescending like it sounds, but in a good for you for being strong in your convictions kinda way.
Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 6:52 pm to
Eh, I smoked pot in college. It was alright but it just made me lazy and hungry. Not a good combo for a girl. That = fat.

But, I never did anything else. Too scared.

I'm a smoker and I have an addictive personality. Part of the reason I never did anything harder was fear of becoming an addict.

I truly believe some people have a larger propensity for addiction.

I was prescribed anti-anxiety meds for a while and coming off of them was absolute hell. I feel for anyone struggling with a real long term addiction.

It could happen to most anyone and most folks are too ashamed to get help.

I could go on and on about the "War on Drugs" and how the legal system and no tolerance approach has obviously failed, but there is a reason I don't post on the poli board.

This post was edited on 5/14/11 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 6:54 pm to
Alot tried and did in college. Most grow out of it. Some like you say have addictive personalities and move on and into other things. Therein lies the danger. And like I said, some get addicted from using it in a prescribed legit way, and those are the ones with a propensity for addictions. Like I said, I don't look down on anyone, just find it tragic when something like this happens when it could have been avoided.
Posted by StevieRayVol
Electric Lady Land
Member since Dec 2008
720 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 7:13 pm to
A guy who grew up with Aaron in Maryville said his problems went back to his surgeries. He had two shoulder surgeries, and two surgeries on his ankles. His problem started then. It wasn't like he started using this stuff for fun. The Dr's prescribed it to him, and he ended up hooked. Sad,Sad thing, he seemed to be turning the corner. In the pictures from the Alabama spring game, he still looked a little thin to me though, Kid had been through a lot.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8188 posts
Posted on 5/14/11 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

Weed is not a drug. It is a weed. Sure, it has mild drug-like effects but it is much milder than alcohol. I get tired of it being lumped in with pain meds, crack, heroin, X and other harder drugs. It is harmless and not even in the same ballpark.


Marijuana is a mind altering chemical which makes it a drug. But everything else you posted is dead on.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73023 posts
Posted on 5/15/11 at 9:01 am to
quote:


Marijuana is a mind altering chemical which makes it a drug.


quote:

Sure, it has mild drug-like effects


Many things can have drug-like effects. Food comes to mind. Or paint thinner. That doesn't make it a drug and it certainly doesn't justify it being classified as a Schedule 1 narcotic.
Posted by Vince
Danziger Bridge
Member since Nov 2009
2223 posts
Posted on 5/15/11 at 9:47 am to
quote:

There is nothing wrong with smoking weed, if you can function on it.


As long as you don't get caught either under the influence or in possession of it.

I've seen too many young people who lost the value of their education due to a simple possession arrest. In today's economic climate, if I were a college student, my worries would be about being able to graduate and obtain a job, not about getting high.
Posted by BAMAFNZ
Member since Feb 2009
1680 posts
Posted on 5/15/11 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Eh, I smoked pot in college. It was alright but it just made me lazy and hungry. Not a good combo for a girl. That = fat.

But, I never did anything else. Too scared.

I'm a smoker and I have an addictive personality. Part of the reason I never did anything harder was fear of becoming an addict.

I truly believe some people have a larger propensity for addiction.

I was prescribed anti-anxiety meds for a while and coming off of them was absolute hell. I feel for anyone struggling with a real long term addiction.

It could happen to most anyone and most folks are too ashamed to get help.

I could go on and on about the "War on Drugs" and how the legal system and no tolerance approach has obviously failed, but there is a reason I don't post on the poli board.




So much truth here
This post was edited on 5/15/11 at 10:03 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52808 posts
Posted on 5/15/11 at 10:33 am to
quote:


As long as you don't get caught either under the influence or in possession of it.

I've seen too many young people who lost the value of their education due to a simple possession arrest. In today's economic climate, if I were a college student, my worries would be about being able to graduate and obtain a job, not about getting high.


Hence why I included "if you can function on it" in my sentence.
Posted by OntheField
Member since Dec 2010
385 posts
Posted on 5/15/11 at 10:59 am to
Going to tell a story here. It's a long one that spans many years but I will try to make it short. I married at 17 because I did not do drugs or drink alcohol, never fit in with the groups and felt I had nothing to gain by staying in high school, took summer classes to graduate in 11 years. Married a good Christian man and we had 2 beautiful kids. In our 3rd year of marriage he decided to open a package store. The man was brilliant and everything he touched was golden. He made a lot of money, very fast, and opened a nightclub, which was also very successful. Then he had to have gallbladder surgery. I have no doubt that he was in pain and needed the painkillers. 3 months later he got into a fight at the store and broke his right jowl which had to be operated on and wire together for 8 weeks. Took a lot of pain killers for that. Then 6 months later while still taking the pain killers, he dove into our swimming pool and broke a bone in his neck. Very lucky he wasn't paralyzed. Then eventually, I realized there was a problem. We later divorced because of drug dealers coming to the house, drugs dropped out of shirts that my son found and ate at the age of 3. He was 29 and began a long period of rehabs, rehabs, and rehabs. At the end he was taking 50 lortabs a day. The man was a millionaire but died at the age of 43. He was living in a half way house, awaiting a trial for robbery and had nothing with the exception of 23 bibles which had been studied extensively. He was straighter than I had known him to be for the first time in over 20 years and he was hit by a drunk driver and killed. The only good thing to come out of this was our children. There was no lie that could be told to them that could make drugs enticing. They knew the truth. Their Dad lacked the coping skills he needed through his life. Being a Christian raised Baptist he went against all he had been taught and sold alcohol. He never could justify that with his religious beliefs but he also could not find a way to let go of the easy money that came with it. It does not matter what the issue is, if a person cannot live within themselves, they have to resolve the issue or dull the senses enough to numb the feelings that come with it. Recreational drugs or casual drinking are not in and of themselves the problem. Some walk away, or "grow up" as many of you have stated, but there is a underlying danger of reliance that becomes a silent killer for so many without coping skills. You wake up and realize you are using that drug as a crutch for what ever you cannot deal with. It creeps up slowly and then bang, you need it. Do most later over come? Yes. But for those who need that crutch, it becomes life consuming. He was a good, kind, giving, brilliant mind, who had a weakness that that the drugs feed on and ate away at all those attributes until only a shadow of the real man was left.
So say what you want, but the DANGER is there, even if you want to deny it. Sorry for the post being so long, but maybe it will help one person who reads this. Yes, I will probably get blasted, blast away, I know the TRUTH. I had a front row seat.
Posted by rebeltider
Oxford
Member since Mar 2010
4690 posts
Posted on 5/15/11 at 11:27 am to
quote:

I married at 17


There's where the problem begins

quote:

I had nothing to gain by staying in high school




Posted by Vince
Danziger Bridge
Member since Nov 2009
2223 posts
Posted on 5/15/11 at 11:34 am to
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Hence why I included "if you can function on it" in my sentence.


Don't know what your profession is if you've graduated, or what your major is if you are a student.

Suppose you are working at your job, and because of an accident not caused by you, your employer has to have every employee tested for drugs in order to maintain his insurance policy. You in no way contributed to this hypothetical accident, but once you test positive for pot, your employer has no choice but to have you either submit to self-funded rehabilitation, or terminate you.

Say you are a nurse, and the narcotic count comes up short during your shift. You, being an occasional toker, always make sure that you correctly account for any narcotic you administer, but again, everyone must be tested and even though it wasn't weed that was missing, you test positive for a controlled substance. Now, the Board of Nursing will require that you undergo rehabilitation, possibly suspend your license, and definitely fine you.

In either of these "hypothetical" examples, you're basically fricked into staying at the current job because either of these examples will follow you for the rest of your professional career, and will definitely prevent advancement to a management position, unless it's daddy's company that employs you.

Think about it. You were functioning with no problem, someone else screwed up. Their screw up led to the entire immediate work force being tested. Your token tokin habit screwed you, and will continue to for the rest of your life.

Is it really worth it?

If you've ever taken an upper level statistics course, are you familiar with the terms sensitivity and specificity?
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