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re: ScAUbinsky: Past Time for Bond and Bell to put up or shut up

Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:32 pm to
You just inadvertently boomed the entire Rant.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:33 pm to
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If they were damning, then why were they not released in the begining? (January)


Because they were reported to Mike Slive at the SEC office and we waited for him to rule

When he didnt- we went to the NCAA ourselves

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I believe the NCAA has made a rulling on the tapes


No they havent- Cam was ruled eligible based on Auburn's investigation into the matter. Thats a fact

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Why would he leak it to a radio guy but say you can just infer things but can't play the tapes.


to show the NCAA and the SEC he means what he says and will do it if they dont step up

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If he wants the NCAA to make a rulling the way he wants to, why not really force their hand and play the tapes? what does he have to hide? Releasing the tapes would force them.


he's not interested in a ruling, just wants State's name cleared so it will stop being dragged thru the mud in recruiting

Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:34 pm to
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I believe the NCAA has made a rulling on the tapes. Now if there is something on them that is damning, they couldnt prove it. Just because something is said, does not mean it is true or able to be proven. The NCAA has either already investigated or are still ongoing with the tapes. Bond/Bell are just trying to pick up some extra change. Why would he leak it to a radio guy but say you can just infer things but can't play the tapes. This whole tape thing is very shady. If he wants the NCAA to make a rulling the way he wants to, why not really force their hand and play the tapes? what does he have to hide? Releasing the tapes would force them.

He is trying to not be a douche and let the NCAA do their job. If they don't he will make them pay. Why can't you Aubies get that through your little pee brains?
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:34 pm to
If the Auburn beat writer is that concerned about the validity of the tapes and that concerned about their credibility, why hasn't he interviewed the news folks and talk show hosts that have claimed they've heard them? He's calling out the guys that reportedly have the tapes, but I've not seen where he's said he contacted the multiple parties that have claimed to have heard them. Of course then, he might actually have to do something, like actual journalism.
Posted by ant111
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:35 pm to
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What are you missing? The NCAA has this info. Bond is forcing them to acknowledge it so that people like you stop trying to act like State did something wrong.

Thats the whole point of releasing them- to clear our name out of it


I'm sorry I guess I did miss something. I thought these were MORE tapes that now would show that Cam knew about this. So you are saying all the tapes Bond and Bell have recorded of this deal were heard by the NCAA and they "STILL" said cam didn't know and let him play.WOW, now the NCAA is also in on a cover-up. Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!!
This post was edited on 2/28/11 at 1:42 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:36 pm to
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Cam was ruled eligible based on Auburn's investigation into the matter. Thats a fact
You are wrong.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:37 pm to
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I'm sorry I guess I did miss something. I thought these were MORE tapes that now would show that Cam knew about this. So you are saying all the tapes Bond and Bell have recorded of this deal were heard by the NCAA and they "STILL" said cam didn't know and let him play.WOW, now the NCAA is in also in on a cover-up. Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!!

This is exactly why he is threatening to release them.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:38 pm to
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Cam was ruled eligible based on Auburn's investigation into the matter. Thats a fact

You are wrong.


He was ruled ineligible by Auburn, reinstated within 24 hrs. I don't think the NCAA can do an investigation that quickly.
Posted by ThatAUguy
River Ridge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:38 pm to
I think he's just tired of garbage. I am too.

You don't hold out and not release tapes unless 1)it would incriminate your own school or 2)they are tapes of you have phone sex with your local sex whore.

Garbage.

Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:38 pm to
they based it off of auburn's investigation
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:39 pm to
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He was ruled ineligible by Auburn, reinstated within 24 hrs. I don't think the NCAA can do an investigation that quickly.
So you actually think the NCAA started looking into this and questioning people when AU declared Cam ineligible?
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:39 pm to
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I think he's just tired of garbage


Scarbinsky has never been anything but garbage.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:40 pm to
do you think Auburn declared him ineligible and had him reinstated based on the knowledge the NCAA had done a thourough investigation and felt he'd be ineligible?
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:41 pm to
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You are wrong.


How so? Auburn declared him ineligible and presented their case to the committee- he was eligible by the next morning
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54184 posts
Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:41 pm to
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they based it off of auburn's investigation
Then why did the NCAA president say they did their own investigation and got to the facts as best they could and did not find any evidence that Cam or AU did anything improper. Was Emmert lying? Is he less informed than the Rant? I'm not saying the NCAA had completed every aspect of their investigation, but their reinstatement decision was not made in a vacuum of information only supplied by Auburn.
This post was edited on 2/28/11 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:41 pm to
When are you barners gonna realize that the whole mid season reinstatement had absolutely nothing to do with this ncaa investigation. That is going on right now. Why do you keep bringing up that irrelevant garbage.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:42 pm to
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When are you barners gonna realize that the whole mid season reinstatement had absolutely nothing to do with this ncaa investigation. That is going on right now. Why do you keep bringing up that irrelevant garbage.
When are you going to actually read and understand what I am typing?
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:42 pm to
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Then why did the NCAA president say they did their own investigation and got to the facts as best they could and did not find any evidence that Cam or AU did anything improper

I was under the impression that they based it off of Auburn's investigation. Either way, that investigation is irrelevant.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:43 pm to
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So you actually think the NCAA started looking into this and questioning people when AU declared Cam ineligible?



no, but that committee's investigation is not done yet and they CANNOT MAKE A RULING until it is finished.

The NCAA did suggest that Auburn sit Cam based on preliminary findings, and Auburn chose to ignore this
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 1:44 pm to
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do you think Auburn declared him ineligible and had him reinstated based on the knowledge the NCAA had done a thourough investigation and felt he'd be ineligible?
I don't know if the investigation was complete and thorough, but I know the reinstatement was not only based on info Auburn provided to the NCAA and I know the NCAA didn't ignore information they had at the time because another committee is responsible for reinstatement decisions.
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