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re: This is no longer about Auburn, it is about the next university...

Posted on 12/1/10 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 9:40 pm to
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it appears that if money actually does change hands and it can be proved, that the schools will still be in a shitton of trouble. If schools want to take that risk, hey go ahead, but then don't complain when you get busted for it.


Wrong.

It fact, it appears that even if MSU or Auburn had paid Cecil, Cam would have been in absolutely no trouble at all. Why do I say this? Because this is what the NCAA said today.

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Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president for academic and membership affairs, said: "In determining how a violation impacts a student-athlete's eligibility, we must consider the young person's responsibility. "


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Auburn could have paid Cecil a million bucks but if Cam didn't know, there would be ZERO consequences. Cam wasn't responsible.

Going forward, if you are a father of a stud athlete, you are a fricking idiot if you don't secretly ask for money while keeping it from your son.

Going forward, all boosters will know they can play player's families as long as they never do anything in front of the player.

The money changing hands makes no difference in terms of the player's responsibility/knowledge. Disagree with me? Post a link where the NCAA says differently.......

Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12767 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 9:56 pm to
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It fact, it appears that even if MSU or Auburn had paid Cecil, Cam would have been in absolutely no trouble at all. Why do I say this? Because this is what the NCAA said today.
OK, so taking that as gospel truth, Cam wouldn't have been in any trouble, but you can bet your arse that the school(s) and any boosters associated with the payments would be.

That was my initial point, even if it doesn't impact the player's eligibility, it still is a violation on the part of the institution if money changes hands and that is where the schools would be playing with fire.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17387 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:05 pm to
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The money changing hands makes no difference in terms of the player's responsibility/knowledge. Disagree with me? Post a link where the NCAA says differently......
How about you post a link where the NCAA says that player responsibility is the ONLY consideration, no matter what the nature of the violation.

Your interpretation of the NCAA's statement is totally without merit.

Let's hypothesize that the NCAA eventually uncovers clear evidence of a money trail from AU to Cecil. Is it your contention that, absent any proof that Cam was aware of the transaction, that his eligibility for games that took place after the money changed hands would remain unaffected?

That's exactly what happened with Bush at USC. The NCAA determined that his family received improper benefits, and retroactively declared him inelgible for all games he played in after the benefits wre provided.

Haden is an idiot for trying to make the comparison.


This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 10:08 pm
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