re: Scale of 1-10, how bad....

I'm calling it now if no one else has...

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DatNotJuiceDatsGravy

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just me

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since you're a noob to the board (but as your name shows you're older and probably cool because of that) i'll make it simple for ya!

8 = number of AP recognized National Championships Alabama has.

5 = number of National Championships that Alabama has that PRE-date the AP.

Fact: There were "best" teams during the years that pre-date the AP poll. Bama was that team several times.

So, like it or not, we as a University and a fanbase have very legit claim to more than 8. Debate us on each individual year and we'll have a legit argument.

I have been around for many years and I've always tried to be fair and reasonable to other institutions, including other conferences, etc. I have lived and worked all over this great country and around the world, and back in the '60 it was amazing how much disrespect any team from south of the MD got; I knew and worked with guys from many schools and anytime the subject of football came up the Lsu and The SEC were rediculed for not playing anyone.... like the mighty Big 10.. Well, my point now is that NC were ALWAYS about AP and UPI MNC, and NONE of these rediculous off the wall polls ever meant anything. One could look in any record book and that's the way it was and now everyone wants to change the rules. Heck, even Arkansas claiming a NC in 1964 is BS. I challange anyone to look in the records for NC and they will not find Arkansas or OLe MIss.

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This guy Dat Gravy has had a bad day, courtesy of Dvls, HSV, labamafan and a few others.

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I called him out for making up words and all I get is "a few others"?

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The real test of humility will be next season and after there first lost!

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getting this win was a huge test for the fanbase. but I agree, whenever we DO lose next will be a huge test too. I have little doubt that we'll rise up and pass that decently too. we better!

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National Championships that that PRE-date the AP.

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No such thing. There was no conception of an NC before the first AP poll and no player on any team thought they were playing for such a thing at any time. Any claim to the contrary not only shows a poor working knowledge of the game's history but also simply doesn't understand what a National Title is.

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There was no conception of an NC before the first AP poll

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exactly. but regardless, at the ends of the season prior to the AP there was still a "best team" mentality..

why do you think the AP was born?

it was born because the sport had grown big enough to have enough people that wanted to bottle up a "winner" each year. i guess if you don't want to be REAL about it, then you can throw out ALL of the accomplishments and WINS that had transpired up until that point.

you have to look at it ALL, not just some of it.

Thanks. I love college football and you will not believe the flak I took as a Southerner back in 60's and 70's. I remember being told we didn't play anyone; well, guess what in the 70's I was living in Dayton, Ohio, just up the road from Ohio State, and LSU actuall played and beat the hell out of WISCONSIN two consecutive years. Suddenly, it was oh, but Wisconsin is not too good this year. Give me a freaken break, they were in the Big 10, right. I also made the trip from Dayton to South Bend in 1971 when Lsu played ND. I actually sat in the ND student section with a friends student brother. You can imagine the crap we heard before the game about how they would whip the Southern bumbs. Well, they did, ND won 3-0 with help from a rediculous pass interference call in 4th quarter leading to winning ND FG. Have a great year. I'm thinking most Lsu fans are ready to forget football and basketball for awhile and start watching a little Tiger baseball.

You're like a grinder monkey playing the same song over and over and over. Using words like stupidity, douchebag, arse hat, on and on and on to address someone you disagree with. Well, that shows your level of intelligence.

DNJDG...you made your first reply in this thread to cutie at 1:13. Your latest post in the same thread is at 7:10. That's almost six hours.

And somewhere in the middle of today's hilarity, you inferred that Gumps who spent four hours a day were somewhat less intelligent than yourself.

Intersesting, wouldn't you say? From a purely global perspective, of course.