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wildrebletime is back as AmosBallentine

Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:32 am
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:32 am
Just a heads up Hog fans........

You will not need proof after reading his posts. I have posted one of his gems further in this thread.

Oh, and wrt disappeared on the 8th. Amos showed up on the 9th.


This post was edited on 6/17/09 at 7:51 am
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:35 am to
quote:

wildrebletime is back as AmosBallentine
Just a heads up Hog fans........


If this is true, no one will need a heads up. His ignorance will be spotted quickly.
Posted by CC Tiger1
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:37 am to
Why did he have to make up a new username? His posts were a little crazy and delusional, but I never saw him post anything that would be ban worthy
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Why did he have to make up a new username? His posts were a little crazy and delusional, but I never saw him post anything that would be ban worthy



Sad isn't it? There are about 5 or 6 billion people in this world, I think, but by Amos's 20th post it was clear exactly who he was.
This post was edited on 6/17/09 at 7:52 am
Posted by CC Tiger1
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:42 am to
link one of his post, so we can see for ourselves if he is wildrebeltime. I havent noticed Amos Ballentine, but I couldnt help but to notice wildrebeltime when he was on here before
This post was edited on 6/17/09 at 7:43 am
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:47 am to
Here you go CC. This is an Amos/wrt gem. In reference to Arkansas and it's proper place in the pecking order:

quote:

11-20 is not reasonable. #25 to #30 maybe and that's with alot of inept coaching at alot of programs that are in talent rich areas.

Florida
Georiga
LSU
Bama
Auburn
Tenn
SC
Ole Miss

Are 8 programs with a better inherit annual recruiting base within the SEC that will rank ahead of Arkansas as long as they all have a quality coach.

Then,
Texas, Texas A&m
Notre Dame
Penn State
Southern Cal
Michigan
Ohio State
Florida state
Miami
UCLA
Oklahoma
North Carolina
Virgina Tech
Virgina
Cal
Illinios
Iowa
Wisconsin
Arizona State
Purdue**
Boston College
Maryland
at least 1 washington school
at least 1 oregon school


and I'm probabaly leaving out some others, are almost always going to be ahead of Arkansas b/c of the population base of talent. Those are all programs that are consistantly putting more players in the NFL than Arkansas. If the rivals star systems don't have them traditionally rated ahead, and if those programs aren't traditionally rated ahead of Arkansas in the final standings they are underacheiving as a program.

Then on any given year there are a handful of other programs with the potential to rank better.

Ga Tech
Arizona
Miss State
Wake Forest
NC State
Fresno State
Stanford
Pittsburg
and I could name others

Even Purdue right now has 33 guys in NFL teams or NFL camps and Arkansas has 25. So, you could say even Purdue would be ahead of Arkansas in national potential. I bet you never considered Purdue has a better chance to win the National championship than Arkansas, but they actually do and it's b/c alot more good players grow up wanting to play for Purdue than Arkansas.


Petrino is an unproven recruiter so far. John L Smith or whoever his lead recruiter was , was the one responsible for Louisville putting alot of guys in the NFL that Petrino won with. He was averaging 4 or 5 guys in the draft per year for a few years. Petrino's first full class he put 5 guys in then this year he had 2 guys drafted and they were ranking pretty well during that time frame they were recruing those guys from. This year would have been Petrino's second or third full recruiting class. You would think they'd of had more if they were recruiting off top 10 national finishes. But that number of 2 that was drafted was the lowest number since prior to L Smith getting there. Of the 2 that were drafted this year, one, Bussey, was from Louisville originally and Eric Wood was from Cincinnati which is 90 minutes away. More than half of L. Smith's recruits that went on to the NFL were defense. All 7 of Petrino's recruits have been offense. So, it appears that has been a break in recruiting consistency between when L.Smith had it rolling in recruiting compared to Petrino. That is probabaly why Petrino got out of there so fast. He rode the defensive recruiting for a big pay day b/c he knew that thing was about to go down hill. The good thing is John L Smith is on staff.

I think Arkansas is a wonderful program but I think there is a symptom of grand delusion if you think you are consistantly top 20 just b/c you have nice facilities.



He has only posted 20 times but it's more of the long winded reasons why Petrino blows, Nutt is the best ever, and how there are at least 100 schools that are better than Arkansas.

Blah, blah, blah.....
This post was edited on 6/17/09 at 7:49 am
Posted by mmjones87
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:54 am to
He actually took the time to write all that?
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:58 am to
quote:

He actually took the time to write all that?


Yes.

But until he took the time to do so I had no idea Arkansas was so far behind the likes of Fresno St., Iowa, Pittsburgh, and other top tier schools.
Posted by mmjones87
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:03 am to
quote:


But until he took the time to do so I had no idea Arkansas was so far behind the likes of Fresno St., Iowa, Pittsburgh, and other top tier schools.


Then you owe him a thank you. Wait.... What?
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Then you owe him a thank you


I actually encouraged him to post more after his first one or two posts.



I didn't agree with him but he sounded somewhat football savvy. But it didn't take long for his ridiculous dribble to start coming through.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:34 am to
his louis coleman thread was pretty good fwiw
Posted by GOBAMA90
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:37 am to
quote:

11-20 is not reasonable. #25 to #30 maybe and that's with alot of inept coaching at alot of programs that are in talent rich areas.

Florida
Georiga
LSU
Bama
Auburn
Tenn
SC
Ole Miss

Are 8 programs with a better inherit annual recruiting...



Whoever this Amos guy is, he makes some good points.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:41 am to
quote:


Whoever this Amos guy is, he makes some good points.


No, no he doesn't.

Historically, Arkansas is a #20 to #30 program. #11-#20 in any given year is more than a reasonable expectation, regardless of what wrt may think.

To say schools like Iowa and Fresno St. need to fail in order for Arkansas to be in the Top 30 is ridiculous.

USC-E and Old Piss fall behind Arkansas since the SEC expansion. (USC-E since their first snap over 100 years ago).

And considering in head to head competition Bama is 9-8 and Auburn is 9-7 since the expansion, I have a hard time buying into the AMAZING gap.

Regardless, Arkansas has been inconsistent the past 10 years, not behind the power curve. That sounds like a coaching problem. We have been ranked everywhere from #4 to #60 the past 10 years and finished everywhere from next to last in the West to first.

A consistent, steady coach has all the tools to keep Arkansas in the #11-#20 range. That isn't asking for the moon and stars and can be done. Hell, it's been exceeded in recent years.




This post was edited on 6/17/09 at 8:52 am
Posted by AmosBallentine
Member since Jun 2009
33 posts
Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:17 pm to
If you look at the statistics and budget of recruiting base, what I am saying is true.

I never figured Purdue had more potential than Arkansas. But I have done alot of research and it appears they do. At least within the last 4 to 6 years they have put more guys in the pros.

that's why the big10 and SEc don't play much.
This post was edited on 6/17/09 at 7:23 pm
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:44 pm to
As usual you don't base it off of anything consistent, but rather base your argument off the NFL production wrt, which isn't terribly relevant to college if the team doesn't gel or if that player doesn't develop until after he leaves.

Based on your findings I suppose you assume that Purdue would fare better in the SEC than Arkansas?
Posted by AmosBallentine
Member since Jun 2009
33 posts
Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:21 pm to
the SEC is the next step to the NFL. The SEC has the most players drafted every year. The SEC is the quadrant of the country that produces the most talent.

It's hard to answer your last question about Purdue based on location and year.

My point about Purdue is that if you average their 20 year homegrown NFL talent, guys that grow up wanting to play for Purdue, like Dmac, or Jamaal Anderson, I think if they played in a bowl game or nonconference game each year alternating home sites since 1970 and both teams had a great coach , Purdue would win about 65% .
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:21 pm to
why did you get banned in the 1st place?
Posted by blackrose890
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:23 pm to
Damn I missed how hard you used to make me laugh
Posted by DeuceisLoose
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

He has only posted 20 times but it's more of the long winded reasons why Petrino blows, Nutt is the best ever, and how there are at least 100 schools that are better than Arkansas.


These are facts, aren't they? This guy could be anybody.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:42 pm to
Duece I have to I have to say I always enjoy you're calm and controlled hate, it is refreshing.

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