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DT Jeremiah Jackson commits to Arkansas

Posted on 6/14/09 at 11:50 am
Posted by superman
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 11:50 am
He was said to be deciding between Auburn and Arkansas. Not sure if he had a commitable offer from Auburn.

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Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 12:30 pm to
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Not sure if he had a commitable offer from Auburn.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 1:00 pm to
I suspect that Jackson will eventually end up at Auburn once he gets a commitable offer. Birmingham area prospects most always end up at Alabama or Auburn, especially Hoover area kids.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 3:11 pm to
YA'LL BITCHES BE HATIN

Seriously...You think it's totally out of the realm of possibility that we have to offer more than these 2 schools?

AU and OM are not in the position of giving commitable offers...Do you expect these 2 schools to be top 10 recruiting? That's pretty much what you're saying...which goes against conventional wisdom
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 6:25 pm to
I'm not hating on Arkansas the least bit. I was just making a point about Birmingham/Hoover area kids, and what they ultimately end up doing. If roles were reversed, and a kid from Little Rock was committed to Auburn, you would most likely feel the same way.
Posted by SLC
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 6:32 pm to
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I'm not hating on Arkansas the least bit. I was just making a point about Birmingham/Hoover area kids, and what they ultimately end up doing. If roles were reversed, and a kid from Little Rock was committed to Auburn, you would most likely feel the same way.


I think your statement is fair. If he stays committed to AR (too early to tell, I know) does this indicate AR can recruit outside of its traditional areas? Again, too early to tell but we have a few months of this before the season kicks off.

So how good is this kid?

Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 6:48 pm to
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does this indicate AR can recruit outside of its traditional areas?


Our 5 commits are from North Carolina, Missouri, Texas, Alabama, and Arkansas.

With the addition of a game every year in the most spectacular NFL stadium around, in the heart of Dallas, and Petrino's willingness to go as far as California and North Carolina, I like our chances of continuing to have recruiting classes in the Top 15.
Posted by AmosBallentine
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 8:19 pm to
Woopiginaustin, I would not put alot of stock in the star system. That is in place as a source of entertainment and revenue. Alot of times the coaches can effect their star rating. The actual quality or "meat" of Petrino's classes won't be any better when it actually matures and gets out onto the field than any of Nutt's old classes most years. Arkansas will always live around #25 b/c there are anywhere from 20 to 30 programs with a better geographical base in a given year. The states Bobby's going to get players is irrelevant. If they are leaving their home state it is b/c the home state school is not offering and if they are coming from far away it's likely no one in between was offering or at least pursuing very hard.


Jackson is committing to Arkansas b/c he's not real high in the SEC's defensive tackle pecking order. Auburn, Ole Miss, Bama, Lsu, probabaly even MSU are all going to sign higher rated or at least better in their eyes DT's this year than him and he's already been informed of that. It's just like Ernest Mitchell coming in from GA. You just hope this kid is not the next Lavunce Askew b/c they are about the same size and Askew is not getting it done in the weightroom or on the field. He had some nice offers as well.
This post was edited on 6/14/09 at 8:43 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 8:25 pm to
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So how good is this kid?


I liked him a lot. Alabama just doesn't have room to add more than two DTs, and he's a ways down in the pecking order. However, a strong camp circuit and great senior season changes things. I suspect he's one of the better DTs in the state of Alabama this season, albeit a light year for DTs. Whoever ends up with him will be getting a great pickup. I remember seeing him for the first time in 2007 (weekend of the LSU game) when Spain Park was playing Hillcrest Christian in Tuscaloosa (I was there watching William Green).
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 8:57 pm to
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Woopiginaustin, I would not put alot of stock in the star system. That is in place as a source of entertainment and revenue. Alot of times the coaches can effect their star rating. The actual quality or "meat" of Petrino's classes won't be any better when it actually matures and gets out onto the field than any of Nutt's old classes most years. Arkansas will always live around #25 b/c there are anywhere from 20 to 30 programs with a better geographical base in a given year. The states Bobby's going to get players is irrelevant. If they are leaving their home state it is b/c the home state school is not offering and if they are coming from far away it's likely no one in between was offering or at least pursuing very hard.


Jackson is committing to Arkansas b/c he's not real high in the SEC's defensive tackle pecking order. Auburn, Ole Miss, Bama, Lsu, probabaly even MSU are all going to sign higher rated or at least better in their eyes DT's this year than him and he's already been informed of that. It's just like Ernest Mitchell coming in from GA. You just hope this kid is not the next Lavunce Askew b/c they are about the same size and Askew is not getting it done in the weightroom or on the field. He had some nice offers as well


I'm not a die hard, point system apologist but the clear misses and flaws in the system don't outweigh the fact that more times than not, they are a good measuring stick.

I also believe that Petrino is a better recruiter and coach than Nutt and that, and that alone, is worth better classes. I don't buy into the poor lil Arkansas mentality. We have some disadvantages but we have money, facilities, a damn good coach, and will be playing in Dallas every year. I do not think we will ever consistently be a Top 10 program but 11-20 is very reasonable.
This post was edited on 6/14/09 at 8:58 pm
Posted by AmosBallentine
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/14/09 at 10:29 pm to
11-20 is not reasonable. #25 to #30 maybe and that's with alot of inept coaching at alot of programs that are in talent rich areas.

Florida
Georiga
LSU
Bama
Auburn
Tenn
SC
Ole Miss

Are 8 programs with a better inherit annual recruiting base within the SEC that will rank ahead of Arkansas as long as they all have a quality coach.

Then,
Texas, Texas A&m
Notre Dame
Penn State
Southern Cal
Michigan
Ohio State
Florida state
Miami
UCLA
Oklahoma
North Carolina
Virgina Tech
Virgina
Cal
Illinios
Iowa
Wisconsin
Arizona State
Purdue**
Boston College
Maryland
at least 1 washington school
at least 1 oregon school


and I'm probabaly leaving out some others, are almost always going to be ahead of Arkansas b/c of the population base of talent. Those are all programs that are consistantly putting more players in the NFL than Arkansas. If the rivals star systems don't have them traditionally rated ahead, and if those programs aren't traditionally rated ahead of Arkansas in the final standings they are underacheiving as a program.

Then on any given year there are a handful of other programs with the potential to rank better.

Ga Tech
Arizona
Miss State
Wake Forest
NC State
Fresno State
Stanford
Pittsburg
and I could name others

Even Purdue right now has 33 guys in NFL teams or NFL camps and Arkansas has 25. So, you could say even Purdue would be ahead of Arkansas in national potential. I bet you never considered Purdue has a better chance to win the National championship than Arkansas, but they actually do and it's b/c alot more good players grow up wanting to play for Purdue than Arkansas.


Petrino is an unproven recruiter so far. John L Smith or whoever his lead recruiter was , was the one responsible for Louisville putting alot of guys in the NFL that Petrino won with. He was averaging 4 or 5 guys in the draft per year for a few years. Petrino's first full class he put 5 guys in then this year he had 2 guys drafted and they were ranking pretty well during that time frame they were recruing those guys from. This year would have been Petrino's second or third full recruiting class. You would think they'd of had more if they were recruiting off top 10 national finishes. But that number of 2 that was drafted was the lowest number since prior to L Smith getting there. Of the 2 that were drafted this year, one, Bussey, was from Louisville originally and Eric Wood was from Cincinnati which is 90 minutes away. More than half of L. Smith's recruits that went on to the NFL were defense. All 7 of Petrino's recruits have been offense. So, it appears that has been a break in recruiting consistency between when L.Smith had it rolling in recruiting compared to Petrino. That is probabaly why Petrino got out of there so fast. He rode the defensive recruiting for a big pay day b/c he knew that thing was about to go down hill. The good thing is John L Smith is on staff.

I think Arkansas is a wonderful program but I think there is a symptom of grand delusion if you think you are consistantly top 20 just b/c you have nice facilities.
This post was edited on 6/15/09 at 1:44 am
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 7:50 am to
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AmosBallentine


nice alter WRT...GTFO
Posted by truthbetold
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 9:15 am to
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in the heart of Dallas


Jerry World is NOT in the heart of Dallas
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 9:29 am to
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Jerry World is NOT in the heart of Dallas


Correct. It's Arlington.

But to fans, recruits, mommies and daddies, it's Dallas.
Posted by AmosBallentine
Member since Jun 2009
33 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 6:34 pm to
woopiginaustin, do you understand what I'm saying?

It looks to me like there are atleast 30 programs with a better inherited recruiting base most years.
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