re: Which SEC team will be the biggest bust of the year?

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I agree with this Our qb does not factor in to our offense like he does at LSU, Fla or OM. We are very vanilla.

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from Saban's time at LSU, the QB definitely matters (see 2004)

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nd you also only beat UF and Arky by a combined 3 points. So whats your point?

I cant stand when people pump themselves up by saying they had a strong finish last year and barely lost to a few teams (which apparently leads to predictions of a division-winning season) but dont acknowledge the fact that they themselves escaped a couple of games.

Sure last year Ole Miss could have been 12-1 with those close losses last year.. but they also could have been 7-5.

If we use Ole Miss' logic of a 7 points or less loss means it could have easily been a W that also means Spurriers record at SC could just as easily be 40-10 instead of 28-22.

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It's the close loss factor.
ask Phil Steele about it.
We went -2, which means we'll do better next year.

Miss St. went +4 in close games in 2007, and then fell flat on their face in 08.
The law of averages, my friend.

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The successful seasons they have had in recent memory came when they were low on the radar.

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Like 2003? That's garbage. The successful seasons usually come when we have good teams.

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If history is any indicator, America would never elect a black president.

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fixed.

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The law of averages, my friend.

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Because statistical averages automatically equates to next seasons success?


Take a look at 'Bama 2006: 6-7; 1 win by 7 points or less; 4 losses by 7 points or less. So that means at -3 they should have had a much better record correct? Well in 2007 they had the same 6-6 regular season record but happend to win their bowl game.

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It does if they're bringing back 16 starters like we are, which they weren't.

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Ah but 16 starters of a team SC beat last year in Oxford yes? Unless they were 16 freshman I cant imagine how suddenly their skills as football players would have skyrocketed unless Ole Miss had a few coaching staff changes that would cater to the players or even just new strength and conditioning coach.

The best argument I have for the returning starters argument would be the '06-'07 UK squad.. they had Woodson and Little and some other key guy who's name slips my mind. Any way I remember this so well because both SC and UK had benefited from the top 10 losing each week and UK was #8 and SC #11 or 12 at the time they played in 2007. I remember very vividly a Wake Forest fan and friend of mine telling me UK was going to beat us that year that they had all those guys coming back.. by chief comeback to that was.. we beat the same guys in Lexington by 7 last year.. we'll beat them this year in Columbia. Sure enough the final was 38-23 in SCs favor.

edit - Sorry for the long post, didnt realize the story was that long. Much shorter when I say it out loud.


and by the way I dont want any Ole Miss fan to think Im trying to talk shite or bring OM down, Im just bringing the counter-argument and as a fellow historically mid-to-low tier SEC team I know the feeling of not wanting to see a team like OM, UK, MSU, Vandy succeed and wonder why SC isnt doing the same.

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Very true. The situation of breaking in a new QB worries me as does the new O-Line.

We could be a bust...or McElroy could do for us what Tee Martin did for UT after Peyton left. We won't know until Greg starts and we see how he plays.

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The difference between that Tennessee team and this alabama team is that 1. Tee Martin had it looks like all returning linemen. He didn't have new guys like McElroy does this year. That will be hard for a new QB with new OL to play in the SEC. Especially with them being the SEC West champions and going undefeated. They will have a target on their backs from other sec west teams.
2. Tennessee had travis henry and peerless price. McElroy only has julio jones this year. He does have some good running backs, but they are freshmen. Tee had a senior in price and an all-sec running back in henry. 3. THe off-field issues like this violation will do nothing but hurt them. The fact that alabama has new looks at line and qb and running back tells me that this offense will not have an easy time scoring points. Although i think they will do good this next year. I can't see them winning more than 8 games.

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I am going with Ole Miss.

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Yup...+1