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re: With the general consensus around here being that Milroe is an average QB…

Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:11 pm to
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They also seem to completely forget that last year was the first year that Milroe got any meaningful playing time and he was thrust into the starting role.


And there it is. The guy is in his 4th year. He’s graduated already, and we’re still talking about his potential. I just hope he plays well enough to move on to the NFL because I fear that in his 5th year we’re still going to be talking about potential
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:14 pm to
Milroe is the most electric/dangerous player in the SEC this fall. If he puts in the work Bama will once again contend for the NC.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:16 pm to
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I just hope he plays well enough to move on to the NFL because I fear that in his 5th year we’re still going to be talking about potential


so you hope that he plays well next year so he won't come back to Bama.


Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:25 pm to
I’ve appreciated his “potential “ long enough. No sense being greedy. Let some NFL team fan experience all this awesome potential.

Alabama was #70 in the nation last year in passing offense. Don’t blame Rees because he had to simplify the offense in order for Milroe to run it. Milroe is extremely inconsistent. He might have a great play one series and s horrible play the next. The last play of the Alabama season he didn’t even try to beat the one guy on the left, but rsn headlong straight into a pile of defenders. He misses receivers running wide open, the receivers generally have to adjust to the ball rather than Milroe hitting them instride, sometimes he runs INTO the rush, he can’t read a defense snd doesn’t have good pocket presence. But hey, he got potential!
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 6:30 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:34 pm to
It took Jalen Hurts four years, three as the starter, to grasp it. Even now in the NFL he is still working on it. I am sorry you don’t like Alabama’s quarterback.

Milroe finished last year sixth in the Heisman. Vegas odds have him at seventh for the upcoming season. A lot of people don’t agree with you that he just totally sucks.

He has a lot of areas to improve on. I think he will be improved.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:49 pm to
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A lot of people don’t agree with you that he just totally sucks.


Get it right fellow. I said he was an average SEC qb

Hmm. I said average, you said totally sucks. A little projection going on there? Interesting
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Tenn grad LSU fan
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:57 pm to
Don't you mean upstairs chasing the coeds
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:12 pm to
College football is a different game than the NFL. He's average to below average as an NFL prospect. That's based on film guys believing Burton was underrated and part of that being due to Milroe's play.

That said, he's a weapon. I'm just not sure he can be made into the pocket passer Penix was. Can Deboer tinker with his offense enough to allow Milroe to function well within it? That'd be the outlet that allows Bama success, IMO. I highly doubt Milroe is gonna be able to run it the exact same way Penix did.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 8:12 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:27 pm to
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I said he was an average SEC qb


An average SEC quarterback sucks compared to a NFL ready starting quarterback. And that is what you are wanting, an NFL caliber quarterback.

The worst thing that may have ever happened to the Alabama fanbase was having Tua, Mac, and Bryce back to back to back. Those guys made many Alabama fans think that was to be expected at quarterback. In fact, they were anomalies. What should be expected are McElroys, Sims, and Cokers.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:11 pm to
Sidewalk being more and more reasonable as time goes on
Posted by Basura Blanco
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:22 pm to
That kid is the biggest question mark of the season in college football. I think his ceiling is Jamarcus Russel and his floor is Joe Milton. That's a pretty damn big delta.

Personally I believe he will be one of the top 3 QB's in the conference and it would surprise me if he goes off. Bama will be down somewhat on defense, simply due to the coaching transition if nothing else, and they will be required to open it up more often.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:28 pm to
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Those guys made many Alabama fans think that was to be expected at quarterback. In fact, they were anomalies. What should be expected are McElroys, Sims, and Cokers.


Ehhh, I think some of that is era oriented. If 15 years ago Saban had needed to go 4-5 wide and throw it 35 times a game to compete, he would've done so. And besides, its a given Alabama recruits better than anyone in the country, and your fanbase expects it. Why would the QB position be any different than say CB or WR?
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:31 pm to
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New King of cfb
King with no crown
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:36 am to
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ChexMix


But you know less than zero plus you’re a welching bitch.

Ryan Williams a lock to Auburn!!
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:56 am to
I think Milroe is fine.

My questions for Bama are at WR (which was a weakness last season and lost their best two weapons), RB (where they lost their top 2 rushers and will be relying on young guys to step up), The DL (3 guys drafted, 4 transfer portal losses with only one portal in) and the secondary (losses both to the NFL draft and transfer portal).

Bama also lost their kicker, and need to remember that prior to Reichard they always had issues at the position.

Bama does have a depth of talent on their roster, even after the portal losses. But other than QB, OL and LB they don't return much production on their team. While Saban was a master of coaching up new players to fill holes every year, Deboer has less experience with that.

And while relying on an experienced QB can cover some deficiencies on offense, Milroe isn't Bryce Young. He's a good QB, but can he cover up a lack of talent/experience at WR like Young could? I'm not certain he's at that level.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 7:01 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:21 am to
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That kid is the biggest question mark of the season in college football. I think his ceiling is Jamarcus Russel and his floor is Joe Milton. That's a pretty damn big delta.


I have no idea what that entails, do you? I do know that the short and somewhat stupid Tommy Rees era is over.

Coach DeBoer attacks defenses with screen passes and short throws, a little pace, and, an occasional long ball.

All designed to get the ball out quickly and helps explain why pass rushers averaged less than a sack per game against Washington.

And now you know.
Posted by Toroballistic
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:25 am to
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What was your SEC Championship Game prediction last season?


Not sure I had one... I did miss have bama beating Texas... I was way off on that one.


You can't remember your prediction for the SECCG but do remember your prediction for a game 3 months earlier? bullshite. You're just another loser.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
11651 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:47 am to
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Why would the QB position be any different than say CB or WR?


Because the number of NFL caliber quarterbacks is exponentially smaller than CB or WR. That is why NFL teams draft QBs so high, many with glaring flaws, and overpay them. Grading and projecting quarterbacks is also much more difficult. That is why so many really good high school quarterbacks flame out in college. And why so many really good college quarterbacks flame out in the NFL. Projecting how a QB will perform at the next level is very difficult. And why some of the highest rated high school QB prospects never see the field besides holding a clipboard in college.

As for Milroe, I think he is probably the best Alabama has right now. I can’t see Saban and now Deboer not playing the quarterback they think gives them the best chance to win.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:52 am to
Im interested to see what Ty Simpson and Austin Mack do this year.
Posted by BLG
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:53 am to
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the short and somewhat stupid Tommy Rees era is over.


As another poster noted, Rees had to simplify the offense, so I don't think we can judge him on last year's offense. It reminds me of Daboll. His offense sucked duriing the regular season, playing Jalen Hurts, then when Tua started the 2nd half of the national title game, Daboll miraculously got very much better.
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