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It's the carbs bruh

Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:49 pm
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
1482 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:49 pm
I think we'll live to see the final demise of the CICO (calories in, calories out) model of weight gain/loss. The body is a complex physiological system, not some simplified Newtonian machine. It's the carbs, and it has always been the carbs. If you quit for a while and feel low, just imagine what a crack addict feels like in withdrawal. It's so gross really when you can get outside of it and see it for what it is. Juicing. Getting puffy. Riding that inflammation to an early demise.

I love carbs. I like the energy they give me for exercise. But you have to manage your relationship with them. They are the root of the problem. You'll never know that until you quit and adapt to living without them.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32720 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 6:09 pm to
Vegetables are carbs.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9132 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 6:18 pm to
I agree with this. 2000 calories worth of Twinkies has a lot different impact on a human body than 2,000 calories of ribeye steak.

I know LSU 777 will probably disagree, and that guy is smart as s*** about human physiology, but I just disagree him with him on the calorie in calorie out thing.
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
30109 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

I love carbs. I like the energy they give me for exercise. But you have to manage your relationship with them. They are the root of the problem. You'll never know that until you quit and adapt to living without them.


Lol, I’ll continue to eat my fruit and raw honey thx.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2182 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:49 am to
Calories in calories out is somewhat of a limiting concept because we can only really guess how many calories we really are burning on a given day. That said, it still must be understood and accounted for.

The main reason things like carnivore work so well is that it is truly limiting. Its hard to gorge yourself in excess calories when you are just consuming protein and fat. Its also limiting in that I cant just go get bacon and eggs in a vending machine.

I can also go out and for pretty cheap, house a 2000 calorie meal that is carb heavy just out in the town or traveling. Cant do that with protein and fat.

Its the lifestyle and behavior modification in addition to the limiting of inflammation promoting foods etc that builds a healthy body
Posted by RocketTiger
Member since Mar 2014
1144 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:25 am to
Fructose is not the problem. Processed sugar and carbs are the problem.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4785 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:31 am to
Gain weight eat more calories than you burn.

Lose weight burn more calories than you eat.

This is fact. You can complicate it as much as you want but this is fact.

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54184 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:44 am to
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The body is a complex physiological system, not some simplified Newtonian machine.
You made this statement to discount the truth of CICO because it’s too simplistic, but then argue something just as simplistic:

quote:

It's the carbs bruh
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3291 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:52 am to
quote:

I think we'll live to see the final demise of the CICO (calories in, calories out) model of weight gain/loss


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96142 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:10 pm to
Thermodynamics is a solid principle that is not ever changing bro

Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1151 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:15 pm to
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They are the root of the problem. You'll never know that until you quit and adapt to living without them.


I am surprised at the number of downvotes on the OP. I expect to see that on the OT board, but not here. Dude is offering logical information from his own experience and research.

Unfortunately this is one of those "against the grain" situations. If you know, you know.

If you have tried the carnivore diet, seriously and faithfully, you know for a fact the it'll clear up all kinds of chronic issues.

The carnivore diet is tough. No carbs is tough. I do the carnivore/no carbs diet periodically and the results are simply impressive. Always.

Anecdotal, maybe, but my personal experience:
Completely off blood pressure meds (after 10 years daily RX)
Fall asleep quickly, sleep soundly and wake up refreshed EVERY DAY.
Completely cleared up dry skin/eczema I had dealt with for years.
And very surprisingly, my tinnitus I've had since I was in my 20 cleared up completely.

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