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re: Is Hugh Freeze the second best coach in the SEC right now?

Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by WalkonQB
Member since Jun 2023
387 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:43 pm to
Puff puff give.

Not sure what you’re talking about. As my great grandmother would say: “God bless your heart.”
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
6216 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:50 pm to
Freeze vs Smart - 1-1
Kiffin vs Smart - 0-1
Napier vs Smart - 0-2
Pittman vs Smart - 0-2
Beamer vs Smart - 0-3
Kelly vs Smart - 0-3
Heupel vs Smart - 0-3
Lea vs Smart - 0-3
Drink vs Smart - 0-4
Stoops vs Smart - 0-8

The rest are 0-0.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9076 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:52 pm to
Harsin had too many chances, chances he never deserved.

Drink does suck. His "leaked" videos prove as much. The good news for you is this, if you play your cards right maybe you can find out in person. Good luck dummy
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15753 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Auburn never gave Harsin a chance.


bullshite.

quote:
Why would you give Freeze a chance?


Because he's doing his god damn job and recruiting like a motherfricker.

Auburn should have just fired him and moved on. He isn't the right fit to recruit in the south. That is number one issue. Missouri dodges a bullet when Harsin asked for 5 million dollars and decided to hire Drinkwitz for less money.
Posted by MadisonReb10
Brandon, MS
Member since Aug 2010
901 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 3:58 pm to
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It’s interesting because the man is brilliant in many ways. He has the potential to be #2. But, he’s also not very bright. He can just as easily be #12 depending on the day. That lack of consistency will eventually drive Auburn fans mad.


Best take I’ve seen so far. It varies week to week. In 2015, season at Ole Miss he beat Alabama on the road and two weeks later got beat by 5th place 4 loss CUSA team by two tds.

In 2014 beat Bama and gets drilled by a 7-6 Arkansas team 30-0.

His first couple of teams beat who they should have with a few surprises in there for wins.

2016 was the beginning of the end. Lost 7 games with a lot of NFL guys, Kelly did get hurt, and Shea Patterson had to step in but that was a rough end. Under no circumstance should a team with that much talent should lose the last two games by 21 to Vandy and 35 to Mississippi State
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6963 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:01 pm to
So basically you think Malzahn was a better coach than Smart because Malzahn beat Saban 2 or 3 times and Kirby Smart was 1 of 6 vs Saban.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
47622 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:05 pm to
“When a storm rises from the east, I will lead my people to the south where they will find prosperity and peace.”


Book of Freezus 21:7
Posted by theballguy
Playoffs? Closed for the season.
Member since Oct 2011
8947 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:06 pm to
Except Freeze won't be winning and Auburn will be letting him go when they see he really can't bring in the recruits in the NIL days.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
3535 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:17 pm to
I’d say so. Time for a contract extension.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22731 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:19 pm to
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when they see he really can't bring in the recruits in the NIL days

I can tell somebody doesn’t follow recruiting…
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30745 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:33 pm to
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Auburn never gave Harsin a chance. Why would you give Freeze a chance?
I'll not trying to speak for Auburn fans, but I have a relative who's close to AU athletic operations. Freeze is doing his job.

He placed recruiting as top priority; he was floored when he saw the shape of that roster relative to talent. He developed a plan to re-open doors and dialog with the top high school coaches in Auburn's recruiting footprint (Harsin never even met some of them at all.) Freeze immediately made an effort to meet/greet the money men that fund the football program. He sat down with them, laid out his vision and he told them what he needed to bring AU football back to relevance in this conference.

I mentioned my family member earlier, a few months after Harsin was hired he told me that Harsin hadn't introduced himself to Jimmy Rane. Harsin had been on the damn job maybe 6-8 months and hadn't seen the need to meet AU football's biggest and most prominent donor? WTF?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22731 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:36 pm to
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Harsin had been on the damn job maybe 6-8 months and hadn't seen the need to meet AU football's biggest and most prominent donor? WTF?


He didn’t exactly endear himself when he blew off Bo Jackson either.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30745 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:47 pm to
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quote:
Harsin had been on the damn job maybe 6-8 months and hadn't seen the need to meet AU football's biggest and most prominent donor? WTF?


He didn’t exactly endear himself when he blew off Bo Jackson either.
That was an idiot move. He never cared to learn the culture of the SEC.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
19496 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:55 pm to
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Has 1 good season

He will have more, but it's DeBoer at 2
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
5247 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:59 pm to
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That was an idiot move. He never cared to learn the culture of the SEC.
Auburn’s situation is unique. The AD who hired you can’t shield you because he’s not the boss. That arrangement seems to work out ok for them. But, you have to just understand who you’re signing up to answer too. Freeze gets it.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3551 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

Kelly is 0-3 vs Kirby Smart.


By that logic, being that Smart was 0-2 against Coach O, I guess Kirby was the lesser coach. You know, considering the body of work.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
7221 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:16 pm to
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Sark


Has 1 good season as HC in his entire career, otherwise averages 7 wins a year.


Beat Bama with Saban by 10 last year.
Posted by one and all
Member since Feb 2012
1324 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:50 pm to
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Most fans on here knew what went on at Auburn. Toxic culture due to driving away a HC without giving him a chance and or fired him right away without attacking him and trying to set him up to get fired with a cause. If Harsin was a huge mistake he should have been fired right away and moved on, but it dragged on for another year. Most fans on here knew what went on at Auburn. Toxic culture due to driving away a HC without giving him a chance or should have fired him right away without attacking him and trying to set him up to get fired with a cause. If Harsin was a huge mistake he should have been fired right away and moved on, but it dragged on for another year. I knew Harsin was a huge mistake due to not being the right fit in the south and he lacked the experience in recruiting in the south. That is why I was happy Missouri went into a different direction when Harsin wanted 5 million a year. I am puzzled as to why Auburn decided to hire Harsin after Mizzou went with Drinkwitz.


Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15753 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:28 pm to
What happened was that if Auburn had known that he had zero experience in the south and was not a cultural fit then Auburn would have hired someone else. Missouri dodged a bullet.
I am wondering about Drinkwitz who did okay in his first year at Missouri that made Auburn go out and hired Harsin. At one-point Drinkwitz was an assistant under Harsin. Maybe that was the reason to hire Harsin since he had been shown to be a better HC than Drinkwitz at that time.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
3595 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:46 pm to
OP stop being insane. Freeze is a has-been running a used-up Malzahn offense. And auburn is in the bottom 1/3 of the league at this point.
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