re: The criticism of Brian Kelly is interesting

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If you bid, you are attempting to be the highest bidder. It's not golf.

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That just isn't true.

Look at Kadyn Proctor, it was widely reported that he took less money to come to Alabama and be coached by Saban.

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Widely report by who?

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Proctor himself said it.

Josh Pate said he was telling the truth.

Just off the top of my head.

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Proctor himself said it.

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Link?

ETA: It's not that I don't believe you. I just want to see what he said.

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That just isn't true.

Look at Kadyn Proctor, it was widely reported that he took less money to come to Alabama and be coached by Saban.

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You are only talking about there being value in the bids beyond a NIL number itself. It's still a bid.

Coaching, facilities, support, etc is all part of the bid. I don't know if this is about a specific player or not, but I know the most recent thing I saw was the DT who went to Oklahoma right? Are you telling me you don't think Oklahoma, a blue blood, has that kind of value in their offer as well? Not to mention a defensive minded head coach vs a HC whose defense hasn't looked good in the 2 years he's been at LSU?

As if LSU is just somehow head and shoulders in these other areas than everyone else? He's either being dishonest or he's fricking delusional. Either way, it's bullshite.

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Link?

ETA: It's not that I don't believe you. I just want to see what he said.

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247 Sports

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“When these stories come out, I hope they understand that,” Proctor said. It wasn’t about the NIL money, because I’m not getting as much money as Iowa would’ve paid me.”

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Because we're selling something a little differently and that is: We want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain, and have success.
"We're not in the market of buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that's what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought."

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Funny, there seem to be very few coaches who actually follow that advise. If that were true Kelly would still be at Notre Dame and DeBoer would be at Washington

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Here's what happened.

The kid took visits, everyone offered him "market value." Insiders say it was around $500k.

The kid's handler then started asking for more, some have said as much as $1.5 mil.

Both LSU and Texas said they weren't paying that, according to insiders for both teams, both jumped out around the same time.

Not really sure what happened at Mizzou, then the kid committed to OU. That's what all of this is in response to.

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So you got out bid.

If you just want to say you think someone else overpaid, that's fine. But that's not what he said. He tried to claim he wasn't interested in someone if they just wanted the highest bidder on a guy he made bids for. That's bullshite.

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When that absolute mouth breather truelefty gets ahold of this news:

I was told LSU have money. LSU not pay recruit why? Brian Kelly not like spend money? LSU have good coaches and player? What LSU doing? LSU win how many game next season?

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POTD

My only criticism of Kelly is not really a criticism. Rather it's an observation.

He's a very good coach but he's not elite. He's proven that repeatedly over a long career.

In essence, he's Mark Richt. Both win a ton of games. Neither were elite.


As far as the portal is concerned, the reality is all players entering the portal are looking for one of 3 things.

1 - Playing time. This is mostly guys who are moving down or to an equivalent level of program who haven't been able to win a starting job at their current program. There aren't a ton of programs where a player can "move down" to LSU for playing time, so Kelly isn't going to find guys in this category.

2 - Chance to win a national title. This is mostly guys who have success at a lower school and want to get into a program in the national title hunt. LSU is a good program, but they aren't OSU/UGA/Alabama who have been regularly in the national title mix the past 2-3 years. They do have a chance at these guys, but they're behind a few others in the pecking order.

3 - Paycheck. Most of these guys are "trading up" with schools as well, but they're less focused on the team they are going to winning a title and more focused on how they can personally benefit by going to that team. That category is the one LSU could have the most success recruiting... but it sounds like Kelly doesn't want the players in that group.

That leaves them with the tiny number of players who are in group 2 who think LSU is a true NC contender and choose not to go to a school that's more in contention.

UGA doesn't get into bidding wars for transfers, but they do offer NIL deals to proven players coming in. They also offer the chance to play for a team likely to be in NC contention and a history of putting a large number of players into the NFL recently. They don't win players who JUST want a paycheck, but some paycheck is coming with the rest of the stuff UGA has to offer to make a solid overall package for incoming guys.

The reality is the less you have to offer outside of money, the more money that needs to be in your offer to win. It's the reality of college football today.