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re: The criticism of Brian Kelly is interesting
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:52 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:52 am to SidewalkTiger
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"We're not in the market of buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that's what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought."
The problem is not the sentiment. The problem is we know he’s full of shite:
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:54 am to Mr Roboto
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This board is obsessed with anything Brian Kelly or LSU. What’s new
What has either one of them done to warrant an obsession?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:54 am to Captain Insano
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The problem is not the sentiment. The problem is we know he’s full of shite:
How is Boutte a contradiction of what he said?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:54 am to SidewalkTiger
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I assume through his conversations with them.
That's doubtful. If these guys coming in for visits just flat out say "show me the money" then maybe, but they ain't, just like BB didn't. Do they want as much $$$ as they can get? Sure, but it's on him for thinking the LSU culture was the only thing he needed, and it's on the recruiting staff for that cringy Callin Baton Rouge schtick.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:56 am to Faurot fodder
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1 - How does he know that $$$ is the only motivation for these players he's referring to?
Because in the case of the player he's referring to, his handler was asking for more money than any player on the roster or coach on staff other than Kelly is making in a year.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:56 am to Dallaswho
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Double standard. Meager with players while
money grows on trees when he wants an assistant.
How is that a double standard? I doubt they're hiring coaches who are just after a check either.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:57 am to SidewalkTiger
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How is Boutte a contradiction of what he said?
LSU threw money at Boutte to stay. He didn’t perform, had shite body language all year and performed like shite at the combine.
Boutte is the exact type of player Kelly is talking about. Kelly is full of shite.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:58 am to Faurot fodder
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That's doubtful. If these guys coming in for visits just flat out say "show me the money" then maybe, but they ain't
Oh my sweet summer's child
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:59 am to Captain Insano
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LSU threw money at Boutte to stay. He didn’t perform, had shite body language all year and performed like shite at the combine.
Boutte is the exact type of player Kelly is talking about. Kelly is full of shite.
Did you consider that maybe BK learned a lesson from that experience?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:59 am to SidewalkTiger
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if you're just looking to get paid, you're looking in the wrong place," Kelly said.
While ole Harold is worth 20 mil.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:05 am to SidewalkTiger
Explain to me what you think takes place on these visits? Is it just 3 days of negotiations? Do you think players might put some other things into consideration?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:07 am to SidewalkTiger
I agree with his view of how he wants college athletics to be.
That is not how college athletics are, in 2024, though. And if you aren't playing the same game as everyone else then you are going to be left well behind.
I think LSU obviously does do NIL, but he is also probably is being honest in saying that LSU isn't going to get in bidding wars, which are pretty easy to spot these days via which teams are in the final 2-3 on guys. LSU just got unlucky that their position of need was one in which guys in the portal seem to be willing and able to get teams into bidding wars. So if you aren't willing to do that, you are going to be up shite creek in terms of acquiring talent via the portal at that position.
I do think that there are differences in how programs approach the portal with NIL money. All of us decide a rate to pay. Some are willing to pay a premium at a position of need. And some are going to overwhelm kids with premium values up front to snatch them up. I don't really think any of them is "wrong" necessarily, but the are different approaches for sure.
That is not how college athletics are, in 2024, though. And if you aren't playing the same game as everyone else then you are going to be left well behind.
I think LSU obviously does do NIL, but he is also probably is being honest in saying that LSU isn't going to get in bidding wars, which are pretty easy to spot these days via which teams are in the final 2-3 on guys. LSU just got unlucky that their position of need was one in which guys in the portal seem to be willing and able to get teams into bidding wars. So if you aren't willing to do that, you are going to be up shite creek in terms of acquiring talent via the portal at that position.
I do think that there are differences in how programs approach the portal with NIL money. All of us decide a rate to pay. Some are willing to pay a premium at a position of need. And some are going to overwhelm kids with premium values up front to snatch them up. I don't really think any of them is "wrong" necessarily, but the are different approaches for sure.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 11:11 am
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:10 am to Faurot fodder
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Explain to me what you think takes place on these visits? Is it just 3 days of negotiations? Do you think players might put some other things into consideration?
They absolutely make other considerations but the main motivation for many players, especially in the late portal, is money.
I don't know about Barrow so much but Williams was absolutely commanding a huge price tag, Texas didn't even want to pay it.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:12 am to Temple of the Dog
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I agree with his view of how he wants college athletics to be.
That is not how college athletics are, in 2024, though. And if you aren't playing the same game as everyone else then you are going to be left well behind.
LSU is playing the game along with everyone else. What they are not doing is agreeing to pay a random DT in the spring portal 3x more money than their All-American LT who's projected to be a Top 5 draft pick next year. Once you do that the flood gates open and everyone else on the roster is looking for more money. If they don't get it, they transfer.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:13 am to Lucado
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LSU is playing the game along with everyone else. What they are not doing is agreeing to pay a random DT in the spring portal 3x more money than their All-American LT who's projected to be a Top 5 draft pick next year. Once you do that the flood gates open and everyone else on the roster is looking for more money. If they don't get it, they transfer.
I added to my post on edit and it is pretty much exactly what you said.
I think the thing it makes you, as a coach, most focused on is making sure you almost never get in a "we have to grab a premium portal player at this spot or else we can't compete" position. Because there isn't a good answer, there.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 11:15 am
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:23 am to SidewalkTiger
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Texas didn't even want to pay it.
We didn't want to pay it either, but our coach didn't flat out say we needed DTs heading into the portal (essentially upping the price right then and there) and then basically call the player a mercenary when he goes elsewhere. It's as if BK wasn't quite prepared.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 11:29 am
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:24 am to SidewalkTiger
Think the board is hitting him because it is a well known fact LSU embraced NIL fully until it was completely understood.
LSU is the ONLY one to purchase NU Timed Square billboard time to promote LSU NIL.
LSU may not be in bidding war for a particular player but LSU is working with boosters for NIL deals. If not, there would be none.
LSU is the ONLY one to purchase NU Timed Square billboard time to promote LSU NIL.
LSU may not be in bidding war for a particular player but LSU is working with boosters for NIL deals. If not, there would be none.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:26 am to SidewalkTiger
I think he is full of shite.
And what I am in favor of is it being against the rules, not some coach grandstanding about how they are too good to do it, while actually doing it.
And what I am in favor of is it being against the rules, not some coach grandstanding about how they are too good to do it, while actually doing it.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 11:28 am
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:27 am to Tridentds
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Think the board is hitting him because it is a well know. Fact LSU embraced NIL fully until it was completely understood.
LSU is the ONLY one to purchase NU Timed Square billboard time to promote LSU NIL.
LSU may not be in bidding war for a particular player but LSU is working with boosters for NIL deals. If not, there would be none.
I have to question the intelligence of this board then.
He never said that aren't participating in NIL, he never said they won't pay players.
He said they aren't interested in taking players out of the portal who are just looking to go to the highest bidder.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:28 am to 3down10
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I think he is full of shite.
Why?
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And what I am in favor of is it being against the rules, not some coach grandstanding about how they are too good to do it, while actually doing it.
That isn't what's happening here.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 11:31 am
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