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re: The Earth is Flat
Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:57 am to captdalton
Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:57 am to captdalton
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Except the government isn’t who told us the Earth is round. Some crazy guy named Aristotle did. And his government hated him for it because it went against accepted belief.
Pretty much everything in this paragraph is complete and utter bullshite, especially the underlined part.
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And who proved the Earth is not the center of the universe? Also not the government. Some crazy guy named Copernicus came up with that. And the government hated him for it because it went against accepted belief.
Pinning this opposition on the “government” here is weird and dishonest.
Basically if you replaced every use of the word “government” with “church” your post would make a lot more sense, especially your final conclusion.
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:16 am to thatthang
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Pretty much everything in this paragraph is complete and utter bullshite, especially the underlined part.
No, I promise you it was just accepted that the earth was flat. The first to be credited with the idea that the earth is round is Aristotle around 300 b.c. Many still thought Columbus would literally fall off the edge of the earth when he sailed for the new world over 1000 years later. Many still believe iit today. So no, everything I posted is not utter bullshite.
It is the same for the earth being the center of the universe. It was just accepted until Galileo had the idea it wasn’t and Copernicus proved it. So no, that is not utter bullshite either.
History does not seem to be your forte. You may want to skip future history threads.
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Basically if you replaced every use of the word “government” with “church” your post would make a lot more sense, especially your final conclusion.
For much of human history they have been one in the same.
Don’t be a semantic bitch. We already have one of those here. And there is not much worse than little semantic bitches.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:52 am to thatthang
Educated people in the Middle Ages knew the earth was a sphere. Indeed since ancient times, that was understood by educated people. The controversy between the Catholic Church and Galileo and between the Catholic Church and Copernicus was not about the shape of the earth, but the earth's position as the center of the universe, and the motion of the earth. We have been fed myths about what ancient and medieval people believed about the shape of the earth. The controversy at the time regarding Columbus wasn't the shape of the earth, but its size. Contemporary critics of Columbus argued he underestimated the size.
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