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re: Serious question. Is there a current coach in the SEC that has a worse resume than Pope?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:04 am to Cheese Grits
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:04 am to Cheese Grits
Revisionist history.
Actually, pre Cal you went through some pretty bad years
You hired Sutton away from us in when he had turned to the bottle. Frank Broyles had been on him about his drinking and when KY came calling it was easier to leave than deal with it
The experiment failed booster set Eddie up to be the fall guy with NCAA and the program suffered.
Hired PItino very good coach brought pride and respect back to KY but he left
Then you went through the Tubby. Billy years. Sure Tubby won a title but it was Pitinos team. I mean Berry Switzer won a super bowl with the cowboys but we know.
When Billy was let go your coaching search wasnt going well. Some KY fans felt Cal was beneath them due to Ncaa stuff even when he was hired to save the day.
Cal fed the beast up until the landscape changed. The transfer portal change the dynamics more so than NIL. It made it harder to win with freshman. The fact that two of the three demands Cal had for Arkansas were increased NIL and getting transfers qualified speaks volumes on the handcuffs he was in at Ky. You cant gripe at the man for having all fresmen when your transfer restriction are unrealistic for the avg. College basketball players
Actually, pre Cal you went through some pretty bad years
You hired Sutton away from us in when he had turned to the bottle. Frank Broyles had been on him about his drinking and when KY came calling it was easier to leave than deal with it
The experiment failed booster set Eddie up to be the fall guy with NCAA and the program suffered.
Hired PItino very good coach brought pride and respect back to KY but he left
Then you went through the Tubby. Billy years. Sure Tubby won a title but it was Pitinos team. I mean Berry Switzer won a super bowl with the cowboys but we know.
When Billy was let go your coaching search wasnt going well. Some KY fans felt Cal was beneath them due to Ncaa stuff even when he was hired to save the day.
Cal fed the beast up until the landscape changed. The transfer portal change the dynamics more so than NIL. It made it harder to win with freshman. The fact that two of the three demands Cal had for Arkansas were increased NIL and getting transfers qualified speaks volumes on the handcuffs he was in at Ky. You cant gripe at the man for having all fresmen when your transfer restriction are unrealistic for the avg. College basketball players
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:31 am to swinetime
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Revisionist history.
Says you
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You hired Sutton away from us in when he had turned to the bottle. Frank Broyles had been on him about his drinking and when KY came calling it was easier to leave than deal with it
You forget I lived in Arkansas and knew both well.
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The experiment failed booster set Eddie up to be the fall guy with NCAA and the program suffered.
Hired PItino very good coach brought pride and respect back to KY but he left
You need to close read my Hindu post
Sutton got Pitino
Billy Clyde got Cal
(take as obvious I have been around awhile and know)
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Then you went through the Tubby.
Tubby was the reincarnation of Joe B
Both were the Vishnu's
I knew Tubby and his family VERY well and can assure you of his coaching ability. Look at him head to head against Little Ricky and who won more with less? Tubby was boring defense to Rickys exciting offense but give me Tubby over Ricky head to head.
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Some KY fans felt Cal was beneath them due to Ncaa stuff even when he was hired to save the day.
Two big donors wanted Cal (like Walton and Tyson for Hogs) and that is why he was hired.
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Cal fed the beast up until the landscape changed.
Correct. like Ricky making hay on the 3pt shot from the pros, Cal made hay on "one and done". You think this is NIL, you are already behind the curve. You just don't see it yet but you will. My guess is with Cal gone, those 2 donors (both billionaires) and the corporate folks will return and the NIL money will double or triple in a few years for UK.
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