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re: Saban in Congressional roundtable speaking about NIL today
Posted on 3/13/24 at 3:09 pm to GusAU
Posted on 3/13/24 at 3:09 pm to GusAU
Gus, you talk about college football like it is some amateur sport that got tainted by NIL in the last few years. That is a ridiculous take and it is out of touch with reality. The reality is that it is a multi-billion dollar business that was exploiting 18-22 year olds for decades, those players worth as dictated by a free market was far far greater than the compensation that was being kept from them by the ridiculous system of the NCAA, coaches, and administrators. Now that NIL has started providing a path for players to get what the market says they are worth all the people that are part of the old system (most especially Saban) are fighting against it.
Maybe this will destroy college football completely, but I would rather see that then see the very founding principles of the economic might of this country undermined because a few boomers are upset because their illusion of the amateur purity of college football is being threatened.
By the way, I did provide you your direct quote with the time and date noted.
Maybe this will destroy college football completely, but I would rather see that then see the very founding principles of the economic might of this country undermined because a few boomers are upset because their illusion of the amateur purity of college football is being threatened.
By the way, I did provide you your direct quote with the time and date noted.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 3/13/24 at 3:41 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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The reality is that it is a multi-billion dollar business
That pays for the majority of University operations. Can you imagine what shape most of our major universities would be in without the proceeds from football.
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then see the very founding principles of the economic might of this country undermined because a few boomers
Are you serious here? Farmers that provide the very food that is on your table. What's their worth How about a doctor that can hold your heart or brain in his hand? How about a fireman that will actually put his life in danger to save yours. Or the man or woman in the military that will stand a post so you and I don't have too. Worth? These are kids playing a freaking GAME. I think our priorities have gone astray. Destroy it all!! From college on up!!
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:38 pm to FlyDownTheField83
quote:Again, you keep making things up. Please provide my quotes where I ever stated that NIL has tainted college football. Again, you won't be able to. The issue anyone with any sense about the subject has is that this system is unsustainable. MILLIONS of future student-athletes will end up losing opportunities that are currently available now (through scholarships for non-revenue sports) if schools have to start paying players (which is exactly what you are supporting, because you wrongly believe that the players currently are being mistreated).
Gus, you talk about college football like it is some amateur sport that got tainted by NIL in the last few years.
Another major equation in this issue is the current unrestricted free agency. Once again, people who are clueless on how the entire system of college athletics works are in favor of the current rules (or lack thereof) for transfers.
quote:Why do you insist on being obtuse? Seriously, why?
Now that NIL has started providing a path for players to get what the market says they are worth all the people that are part of the old system (most especially Saban) are fighting against it.
You keep saying that Saban and I want to fight NIL. Do you have a problem with reading comprehension?
I stated the following:
"NIL can be regulated to where it is truly used as intended (name, image, likeness of player with NO input from schools) rather than the current Wild West with unlimited transfers. I do not know exactly how, but it can be done. No professional league has unlimited free agency, why should college?
Again, I have no problem with a student athlete cashing on themselves (NIL), but not at the expense of eliminating ALL non-revenue sports (and subsequent opportunities) for millions of future student-athletes."
How you can interpret that as me wanting to get rid of NIL or blaming NIL for "tainting college sports" ?
I blame the complete lack of enforcement of the rules that were in place for both transfers and NIL. I never said both of those should go away, regardless of how often you want to say so. I just think those issues should be tightly regulated by a governing body put together by the member schools (totally gutting the NCAA would be a great start).
Do you honestly know the true intentions for NIL? If not, it is supposed to be a rule that allows student-athletes to be compensated for using their name, image and/or likeness to endorse products, services, etc. It was ONLY supposed to be between the student and the entity paying them for their "services". Schools were not supposed to be involved in any way (which was laughable from the very beginning).
My point (as is Saban's) is that there needs to be some kind of rules in place with an enforcement agency to enforce them.
Every single major school (and many smaller schools) now have collectives which are used to entice recruits to sign with their schools. That absolutely has recruits signing with the highest bidder, which is even worse than pro sports because the pro sports are not "lawless". Why can't you see this?
Also, the unlimited transfers allowed currently will absolutely destroy college sports. If you can't see that now, you never will until it is too late.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:19 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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see the very founding principles of the economic might of this country undermined
Is that the most dramatic you could come up with? May as well work fetuses and genocide into it.
Another very founding principle of the economic might of this country is that there are regulations for many things, if not everything. We are quite far from the Laissez-faire situation you imply and for good reason.
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