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re: Can anyone explain Alabama fans’ infatuation with using French heritage as an insult?

Posted on 3/9/24 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by WarCamEagle88
NC
Member since Feb 2018
188 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 8:52 pm to
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Our goal is to retire in France… preferably in the South. Love the food, culture, art, architecture, etc.


I can think of worse places to retire! Good luck to you.
Posted by Lateralus1
Member since Mar 2024
304 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 8:54 pm to
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Yet all these mouth breathing hicks are the first ones to come to Nola and road games at LSU to experience our shitty culture.


See, even the French hate themselves.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20454 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:10 pm to
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What made the French weak?



I don’t know. You tell me. I just know if it weren’t for England and the United States they would be speaking German right now.

Why have they become so prone to throwing down their weapons and surrendering? It is nature or nuture?
Not that anyone cares, but the French treated WW2 like they did older European wars; they weren't concerned about Hitler and the Nazis. They went on the operating principle that "France would stay France", and not become a subordinate territory to Germany; and that politics would sort themselves out in about a decade at most. When the Germans got the jump and a clean shot at Paris, they didn't want their country ravaged like in WW1, with Paris possibly leveled. So to preserve their culture and historical sites, they tapped out.

I'd say it wasn't so much 'cowardice', as it was short-sighted, and displayed a lack of understanding of how the 20th Century was going. They didn't grasp that it wasn't just a territorial dispute or a "Germans and French shooting at each other" event, Western Civ and democracy was at stake.

And many French absolutely hated that decision, fwiw.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8276 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:24 pm to
So they were scared Germany would destroy their cities if they put up a fight. So, afraid of that, they just surrendered.

That sounds like the definition of cowardice.

I think World War One broke the French. So many of their men with a sense of honor and bravery were killed. All they were left with were the shirkers that hid in the ditch and lived. Those are the ones that rebuilt France after World War One. And we have been seeing the consequences of that for the last 100 years.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8276 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:25 pm to
And I don’t disagree with you. I think we just have different ways of looking at it.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7742 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:26 pm to
European heritage built civilization. All descendants of Europe deserve our respect
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
10282 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:27 pm to
The French were lovers, not fighters obviously. They pretty much lost every war they’ve ever been in too.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7747 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:48 pm to
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Am I led to believe the Alabama fans of SECrant.com have a better grasp of history than the rest of the literal internet?


Sarcasm and satire. Learn how to distinguish between the two.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16076 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:50 pm to
The Norman’s and saxons absolutely. Beyond that is a decline of epic proportions
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:23 am to
French culture doesn’t allow inbreeding! That’s a big problem for Bama fans
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7103 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:11 am to
The French are very weak and lazy people. It’s well known.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20454 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:21 am to
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So they were scared Germany would destroy their cities if they put up a fight. So, afraid of that, they just surrendered.

That sounds like the definition of cowardice.

I think World War One broke the French. So many of their men with a sense of honor and bravery were killed. All they were left with were the shirkers that hid in the ditch and lived. Those are the ones that rebuilt France after World War One. And we have been seeing the consequences of that for the last 100 years.
It can certainly be viewed as cowardice if you want, but like I said, the French were operating under different (19th Century) rules.

For the past couple centuries, France had beaten Prussia, Prussia had beaten France, back and forth a few times. Nothing really happened to the losers, in terms of change of native culture. The loser would cede a political point, maybe control of a border area, maybe some colony far away from the homeland.

I think the French position with WW2 was in line with that- frick it, let the Germans have control over Central Europe, it's not worth fighting WITHIN France over.
They didn't conceive the scale of what was actually going to happen, because European wars had never played out that way before. They didn't want the repeated loss of population WW1 had brought, for what they expected would be a matter of foreign policy amongst the major powers.
Posted by patillac
Member since Mar 2024
31 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:32 am to
Pretty rich, listening to a fan base knock bloodlines when their family tree doesn’t branch.
Posted by EssexTiger
Maryland
Member since Apr 2020
141 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:44 am to
I was informed by a French Canadian friend that they mostly sat out WW2. That may be where some of this disdain comes from.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9548 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:52 am to
It was me mocking you people
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:47 pm to
[quote]French culture doesn’t allow inbreeding! That’s a big problem for Bama fans[/quote
Info from Researchers from the University of Queensland:

"Inbreeding is more common in the following states: Washington, Oregon, Montana, South Dakota, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana."
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:14 pm to
I have no clue. Have they not been to Mobile?
Posted by aTm boy
Member since Sep 2020
4269 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:15 pm to
French people talk weird.
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5140 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:19 pm to
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Soley WW2?


Gordon Soley? (I know it's actually Solie)

I always enjoyed he and Dusty Rhodes commentary broadcasting live on the Mothership ( as Dusty called TBS) back in the day.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:25 pm to
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So they were scared Germany would destroy their cities if they put up a fight. So, afraid of that, they just surrendered.

That sounds like the definition of cowardice.

I think World War One broke the French. So many of their men with a sense of honor and bravery were killed. All they were left with were the shirkers that hid in the ditch and lived. Those are the ones that rebuilt France after World War One. And we have been seeing the consequences of that for the last 100 years.


Holy crap this is the stupidest comment I have ever seen about the French in WWII. First off, France fell because of lack of imagination from the French military. Second, British soldiers in France also surrendered and/or escaped back to the UK along with 100.000 French soldiers. Third, French soldiers fought in every single theater throughout WWII. Fourth, the French Resistance was instrumental in the invasion of Europe and were beyond courageous.

Your comment is like saying that the US had no honor or bravery because the Phillipeans fell.
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