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re: 2024 Gamecock Baseball | 37-25 (13-17) | Mark Kingston eliminated

Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:30 am to
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:30 am to
I'll believe it when I see it. I hope you're right.

Still feels like a lose-lose however, given who will hire the replacement
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:56 am to
We had a top 25 opponent, and also a rival, with the chance to host and be a national seed yet the stands were half empty all 3 games. When the fans leave you and the money power brokers have had enough Kingston will be let go. We have reached that point.

The biggest thing that concerns me is I don't trust Tanner to make a good hire
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7625 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:50 am to
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The biggest thing that concerns me is I don't trust Tanner to make a good hire


He did get Lamont.

Early on his hires and really worse than that, his contracts sucked. As of late he has been a pretty decent AD. He has kept Dawn here and happy, hired Lamont, and hired a pretty decent track and field coach. Everyone wants to see football win, but Shane is doing pretty decent considering the landscape of CFB, and UGA/Clemson success. If he can get back to 7 or 8 wins this season we will be in good shape going forward



** and yes my faith in the squad took a major hit this past weekend. I still think an Ole Miss type run can be made, but those 3 games were as tough to watch as any ive ever seen at Carolina. Maybe we can bounce back this weekend.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 8:52 am
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7625 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:55 am to
quote:

We had a top 25 opponent, and also a rival, with the chance to host and be a national seed yet the stands were half empty all 3 games. When the fans leave you and the money power brokers have had enough Kingston will be let go. We have reached that point.


Fans not showing up is not why we lost. I want to preface that before I dive into this one.

I think it is still frustrating to see the fanbase quit on this team prior to this weekend. All the above that you stated should merit fans in the stands. Messina, Petry, Jones, etc all deserved that. If fans wanted Kingston gone, I completely understand, but when a team is coming off a supers, and then was in line to potentially be a national seed with 2/3, our fans shouldn't be not showing up. Obviously they have quit on the team, so I agree you have to look to a new coach, but we shouldn't have quit prior to the series
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:46 am to
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Fans not showing up is not why we lost. I want to preface that before I dive into this one.


First off your comment was not necessary as the context of my comment had no basis of claiming it led to our loss. The comments were in direct correlation with why coaches lose their job. So you're starting off by being disingenuous so it now appears that you are being argumentive because you want to be right.

Fans spend their hard earned money and spend part of their free time when they go to games. When that product no longer carries a positive value for your sacrifice then you choose to do something else.

And you missed the point totally. Yes, the things I pointed out should have merited fans in the stands but the point was the confidence level, and the past failures of Kingston, have kept fans from coming out. Had the confidence in the team and coaching staff been there I can assure you it would have been sold out.

Look I appreciate your compassion for our Gamecocks but you are in the minority on this issue. I took love my Gamecocks BBUT I want better for them and know when it's time for a change not holding out " hope that we go on a run".

I know what Carolina baseball used to be. I've been going to games since Bobby Richardson was coach. I remember when the train would stop in the outfield to watch us play because we were an elite team. I'm not willing to hope and pray when my personal experience tells me it's a waste of time.

You can cheer for the team while still wanting a coaching change and pointing out our short comings and choosing some other values for our time and money is not putting down the players

I even started a thread, preseason, on how far the talent could take us but our coaching staff, who still can't figure out what pitchers should do what, is not doing the job and after 7 years you know it's not going to change.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7625 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

First off your comment was not necessary as the context of my comment had no basis of claiming it led to our loss. The comments were in direct correlation with why coaches lose their job. So you're starting off by being disingenuous so it now appears that you are being argumentive because you want to be right.


to be honest I didnt reply to try to argue with you on anything. I just added that preface as well because I didnt want any reply to make it seem like I was blaming the sweep on lack of fan support.

You're 100% right about fan confidence, and thats exactly why people didnt show. I would also add the yellow coats suppressing the heckling has led to less rowdy fans and more wine and cheese. Wine and cheese crowd doesnt like showing up when things get bad.

all I was trying to say is that it is disappointing when a team on the edge of a national seed can't fill up the stadium. I hate it for the players, because guys like Messina and Petry deserve to be remembered as Gamecock legends and not forgotten as apart of the Kingston teams.
Posted by Soda City Spur
Coastal Plains
Member since Mar 2017
1011 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:37 pm to
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We’re gonna get swept the final two weekends
in all probability we'll likely be on a 7 game skid heading into the regional.
Posted by Soda City Spur
Coastal Plains
Member since Mar 2017
1011 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:42 pm to
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He did get Lamont.
Let's not pretend he was the first choice and Tanner went and got him. Paris is making Tanner look like he knows what he's doing.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7625 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:47 am to
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Let's not pretend he was the first choice and Tanner went and got him. Paris is making Tanner look like he knows what he's doing.


Does it honestly matter what choice Paris was? He made a good hire, and his first choice would have been a good hire as well. It was a success from a basketball perspective.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 8:49 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:41 am to
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Does it honestly matter what choice Paris was? He made a good hire, and his first choice would have been a good hire as well. It was a success from a basketball perspective.


A broken clock is correct twice a day.


If we get swept by tenn and lose game 1 in Hoover do we even make the tournament?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:21 pm to
Another weekend another loss that wasn't close... again
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7625 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:13 am to
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If we get swept by tenn and lose game 1 in Hoover do we even make the tournament?


I think we do still make the tournament. UGA is playing amazing baseball right now, and UT is #1, so they arent "bad" losses...just frustrating to end the season with 2 sweeps potentially
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:54 am to
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so they arent "bad" losses...just frustrating to end the season with 2


The national pundits disagree with you. The Georgia losses were absolutely " bad" as we got blown out, at home, all 3 games. In less than 2 weeks we have gone from a #10 seed to losing a chance to host and possibly falling down to a #3 seed in someone else's regional. As a Gamecock I hope we go on a run but I know that our coaching staff doesn't have that ability. Kingston is a Deadman walking
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:11 am to
We aren't just losing we are getting embarrassed
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:11 am to
We aren't just losing we are getting embarrassed
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7625 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:51 am to
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Kingston is a Deadman walking


That is an understatement. When is the date for his buyout to cut in half? June something? I don't think we see a move until then.


I hope we can keep some of the roster talent but it wouldn't shock me to see a mass exodus.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:08 am to
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hope we can keep some of the roster talent but it wouldn't shock me to see a mass exodus.


Rumor is he told quite a few players to transfer because he didn't think they were good enough. Parents and players have turned on him. If he stays the exodus would be worse either way I see next year as a total rebuild.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7625 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Rumor is he told quite a few players to transfer because he didn't think they were good enough. Parents and players have turned on him. If he stays the exodus would be worse either way I see next year as a total rebuild.


So clearly I have tried to be positive, and for a little while we seemed to get things back on track.

but all year I have wondered where Carson Hornung is? Also why he thinks that Will Tippett is any good is beyond me. I also feel bad for Evan Stone. If we are going to play someone who can't hit because of their speed and defense it should have been him.


but really for me, the pitching has completely let me down. I was excited getting Williams in here, I had heard great things outside of the program about him. Our pitchers have flat out gotten worse, and the timing of pitching changes has gotten far worse. Realistically we should have won probably one game in both the UT and UGA series's if the relief pitching didnt just fall off a cliff
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 12:32 pm
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7625 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:18 am to
The good news is that we evened our season series with Bama, and we are definitely going to be in the tournament. A win today against Arkansas I believe would ensure us a 2 seed, and maybe get our minds back right.


At this point (barring a run to Omaha) I want Kingston gone. With that said, I want these players to be successful. Messina and Petry may be some of my favorite Gamecock baseball players ever. So hopefully we can put up a good game today against Arkansas


Question for yall, how would yall feel about hiring Sully now. UF is about to miss the postseason, and King is hopefully about to be fired. Do you think hiring sully could get this fanbase excited again,and give him the crowds and resources he didnt have at UF?
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 9:24 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12965 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Question for yall, how would yall feel about hiring Sully now. UF is about to miss the postseason, and King 


Not really sure that I would want a Clempson man heading our program , he's always reminded me of jackleg, also it seems like he got a little burnout going on however if he could bring us back to prominence our welcome him aboard
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 1:08 pm
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