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How do you honestly see the SEC over the next few years?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:22 pm
Team by team outlook, as the league reorganizes and adds 2 new power players.
I'm trying to get a troll-free opinion on this
My take:
Alabama- I'd be nervous as hell. If Saban were there, I'd be comfortable saying Alabama would remain 1/1A. With a new guy unfamiliar with the league, and 2 new tough opponents, they could be in trouble. They're still gonna get everyone's A game because of the name, and I don't know that DeBoer is ready for that.
Georgia- they look good for the foreseeable future, as long as Kirby is there. Probably #1 or contend for it annually.
LSU- I'm comfortable, as a fan. LSU tends to do well based on talent, the new teams aren't affecting the recruiting base, and while I won't say Kelly is "the greatest", I think he's providing much-needed stability. We needed that after Orgeron, and during this expansion, at least until the dust settles on that part.
Florida- in big trouble. Serious step back from Mullen, who was an arse but still had some potential. Might be heading towards a Tennessee-type death spiral now.
Tennessee- interesting with the NCAA investigation. I thought they were recovering back to Top 10 status, but this may kill that momentum. Has to be hard for the fanbase.
Ole Miss- honestly think they might be on a make-break threshold. Could become a solid team, could collapse. That depends on Lane, who I believe might have misjudged the Alabama situation; MAYBE he's actually satisfied at Ole Miss, or MAYBE he didn't jump earlier because he was holding out to be Saban's successor. Still think there's a glass ceiling on that job, can be good but not elite.
Arkansas- this move might rejuvenate them; they always seem to be fired up playing Texas. Now that game means something again, they might be able to soak up the "non-Longhorn" Texas players and improve.
Texas- really hard to read. They can be very good, but tend to go off the rails with the boosters. Might be on their best behavior while integrating into the SEC, at which point they're gonna be a decent power.
Oklahoma- always seems to be solid. I think upper half of the SEC most years.
A&M- I think in trouble. Texas coming in steals some of their "want to play in the SEC" recruiting, and they're not established.
Auburn- I think on the upswing. They always seem to get a decent amount of talent, play UGA and Bama well, and generally they appear to think if the coach was good at Ole Miss, he'll be better at Auburn. Worked with Tuberville, I think it will with Freeze. Wonder if Kiffin regrets not going, now.
Mizzou- seems to straddle the average/good margin, most years. Another glass ceiling job.
I'm trying to get a troll-free opinion on this
My take:
Alabama- I'd be nervous as hell. If Saban were there, I'd be comfortable saying Alabama would remain 1/1A. With a new guy unfamiliar with the league, and 2 new tough opponents, they could be in trouble. They're still gonna get everyone's A game because of the name, and I don't know that DeBoer is ready for that.
Georgia- they look good for the foreseeable future, as long as Kirby is there. Probably #1 or contend for it annually.
LSU- I'm comfortable, as a fan. LSU tends to do well based on talent, the new teams aren't affecting the recruiting base, and while I won't say Kelly is "the greatest", I think he's providing much-needed stability. We needed that after Orgeron, and during this expansion, at least until the dust settles on that part.
Florida- in big trouble. Serious step back from Mullen, who was an arse but still had some potential. Might be heading towards a Tennessee-type death spiral now.
Tennessee- interesting with the NCAA investigation. I thought they were recovering back to Top 10 status, but this may kill that momentum. Has to be hard for the fanbase.
Ole Miss- honestly think they might be on a make-break threshold. Could become a solid team, could collapse. That depends on Lane, who I believe might have misjudged the Alabama situation; MAYBE he's actually satisfied at Ole Miss, or MAYBE he didn't jump earlier because he was holding out to be Saban's successor. Still think there's a glass ceiling on that job, can be good but not elite.
Arkansas- this move might rejuvenate them; they always seem to be fired up playing Texas. Now that game means something again, they might be able to soak up the "non-Longhorn" Texas players and improve.
Texas- really hard to read. They can be very good, but tend to go off the rails with the boosters. Might be on their best behavior while integrating into the SEC, at which point they're gonna be a decent power.
Oklahoma- always seems to be solid. I think upper half of the SEC most years.
A&M- I think in trouble. Texas coming in steals some of their "want to play in the SEC" recruiting, and they're not established.
Auburn- I think on the upswing. They always seem to get a decent amount of talent, play UGA and Bama well, and generally they appear to think if the coach was good at Ole Miss, he'll be better at Auburn. Worked with Tuberville, I think it will with Freeze. Wonder if Kiffin regrets not going, now.
Mizzou- seems to straddle the average/good margin, most years. Another glass ceiling job.
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:27 pm to Scoob
Seems like a pretty good analysis.
On the new additions, I'd bet on Texas being better in the short term but Oklahoma being better in the long term. Oklahoma just seems to be a much more stable program over the years.
Also think the 2 new additions will have just as much impact on LSU and Georgia as they will on Alabama.
On the new additions, I'd bet on Texas being better in the short term but Oklahoma being better in the long term. Oklahoma just seems to be a much more stable program over the years.
Also think the 2 new additions will have just as much impact on LSU and Georgia as they will on Alabama.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:30 pm to Scoob
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How do you honestly see the SEC over the next few years?
These next few years will be the most volatile in our lifetime, on and off the field. Instability and inconsistency are going to be the norm. It will be interesting to see who makes the jump into the new pro league.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:35 pm to Scoob
Will fall further behind the B1G in exposure, prestige, and revenue if they are stuck with ESPN.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:48 pm to Scoob
Tennessee I think we’ll win this court case. The NCAA will be dead and Tennessee will be fine.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:53 pm to Scoob
What about Vanderbilt?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 3:31 pm to Scoob
KY>?
Vandy?
Nothing on MSU?
Vandy?
Nothing on MSU?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 3:49 pm to Scoob
Over the next 5 years..
there are 15-20 spots in the playoffs up for grabs..
1. Georgia
(5/5 = 100%)
2. Texas, Alabama, LSU
(8/15 = 53%)
3. Oklahoma, Ole Miss
(3/10 = 30%)
4. Auburn, Missouri, A&M, TN, FL
(3/25 = 12%)
5. Arkansas, South Carolina, Miss State, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
(1/25 = 4%)
Not exact.. but I see the numbers falling kinda like that..
there are 15-20 spots in the playoffs up for grabs..
1. Georgia
(5/5 = 100%)
2. Texas, Alabama, LSU
(8/15 = 53%)
3. Oklahoma, Ole Miss
(3/10 = 30%)
4. Auburn, Missouri, A&M, TN, FL
(3/25 = 12%)
5. Arkansas, South Carolina, Miss State, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
(1/25 = 4%)
Not exact.. but I see the numbers falling kinda like that..
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:41 pm to Scoob
Mississippi State and Vandy are football garbage and that makes me happy.
I’ve been there before and it isn’t fun.
I’ve been there before and it isn’t fun.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:06 pm to Scoob
Dear Diary……
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:03 pm to Scoob
Dilution of the brand.
Long time rivalries dissolved.
More decisions Iike less plays, more commercials.
Smaller crowds for many games, trophy travel prices for big games.
Consolidation of talent to 2 or 3 schools.
I think sports is an economic bubble. The people most interested in college sports are aging out of attending games. The next generation is not as wealthy, values their time more, and won’t settle for hot aluminum bench seating in early September. I think season ticket sales will decline for most programs. Bowl games may die off with playoff expansion.
Long time rivalries dissolved.
More decisions Iike less plays, more commercials.
Smaller crowds for many games, trophy travel prices for big games.
Consolidation of talent to 2 or 3 schools.
I think sports is an economic bubble. The people most interested in college sports are aging out of attending games. The next generation is not as wealthy, values their time more, and won’t settle for hot aluminum bench seating in early September. I think season ticket sales will decline for most programs. Bowl games may die off with playoff expansion.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:15 pm to Scoob
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Tennessee- interesting with the NCAA investigation. I thought they were recovering back to Top 10 status, but this may kill that momentum. Has to be hard for the fanbase.
We're ecstatic. We're becoming the school that made sure everyone GOT PAID.
We're rock stars with recruits right now. This sham investigation and all the dominoes that it has toppled (and will topple) will make us a favorite place for recruits to consider.
You don't need to feel bad for us. Nico isn't going anywhere and the future is bright.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:17 pm to Scoob
I smell fear in these threads.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 7:21 pm to Scoob
You're at least a decade out of date with the out of control boosters for Texas. All of the old guard BMD's are either RIP or too old to get too involved these days. The new generation are much more subtle...willing to get the money where it needs to be without demanding to be consulted about every big decision.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:08 pm to Scoob
Mizzou a glass ceiling job? We just beat Ohio State in the cotton bowl and were a late game int against Georgia from going to the SEC championship game again.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:17 pm to Scoob
Tbh, I don’t even give a shite anymore. Only care for my team.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:37 pm to Scoob
Jimbo and Sumlin have been notorious for doing less with more. Elko is a guy who did more with less in a short time at Duke. I’d like to see if he can do more with more.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 7:38 am to Scoob
Incredibly competitive like we have not seen in recent years. IMO, with the schedules, it will be very difficult for any team to run the table and stay injury free. Depth will be super-important.
We may see 1 team really standout above all others, but I would bet there will be a pack of 3 teams (likely changing annually based on rosters) who will be right there.
We will likely see some VERY good SEC teams with 2-3 losses not make the PO's just due to numbers. After a season or two they will need to change how those 12 teams are selected.
With that said if some changes are not made to NIL and the TP, it won't matter. The game will not endure which will be sad for CFB and CFB fans.
We may see 1 team really standout above all others, but I would bet there will be a pack of 3 teams (likely changing annually based on rosters) who will be right there.
We will likely see some VERY good SEC teams with 2-3 losses not make the PO's just due to numbers. After a season or two they will need to change how those 12 teams are selected.
With that said if some changes are not made to NIL and the TP, it won't matter. The game will not endure which will be sad for CFB and CFB fans.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:12 am to Scoob
Have not seen any UF fans weigh in. They know things are looking bad!
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:21 am to Scoob
Texas, Georgia, Texas A&M
Short term splashes made by Oklahoma, Ole Miss and LSU.
Texas-biggest name in college sports with the biggest money.
Georgia-most successful recent college coach with a great fanbase and support.
Texas A&M- a sleeping giant. Largest university in the SEC, strong alumni support. Since A&M moved away from being mainly a military school in the 1970s their record against Texas is al most even.
Oklahoma’s glory days are two decades past. They haven’t been particularly successful in recruiting or winning in the big 12 minor league.
LSU- same boat. Small poor school, Texas, OU, Texas A&M, Bama and Georgia will eventually wear down LSU.
Ole Miss is only successful as long as Lane Kifflin is there. The alumni don’t really support athletics except as a social party.
Short term splashes made by Oklahoma, Ole Miss and LSU.
Texas-biggest name in college sports with the biggest money.
Georgia-most successful recent college coach with a great fanbase and support.
Texas A&M- a sleeping giant. Largest university in the SEC, strong alumni support. Since A&M moved away from being mainly a military school in the 1970s their record against Texas is al most even.
Oklahoma’s glory days are two decades past. They haven’t been particularly successful in recruiting or winning in the big 12 minor league.
LSU- same boat. Small poor school, Texas, OU, Texas A&M, Bama and Georgia will eventually wear down LSU.
Ole Miss is only successful as long as Lane Kifflin is there. The alumni don’t really support athletics except as a social party.
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