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re: Explain the Harsin comparisons to DeBoer with logic.

Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:45 am to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23007 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:45 am to
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Actually, we both know you cherry picked a few classes that supported your argument and left the rest.

Recruiting class rankings per Rivals:


2002: #24
2003: #12
2004: #32
2005: #40
2006: #8
2007: #8
2008: #2
2009: #21

And you swore Notre Dame was consistently recruiting top 5 classes prior to Kelly being hired.


If I was cherry picking anything I would have included the 2006 season. I didn't include it because the 3 years prior to BK was more than enough to establish the pattern. Also, all those classes you have ranked 8th are top5 on On3. You went searching to find the worst rankings you can find.

Beyond that, you are just highlighting the Tyrone Willingham era, who had the worst recruiting classes for ND probably in their entire history. I guess you don't ND getting hit with sanctions in 2000, and you don't remember George O'Leary getting fired after like a week of being on the job for ND and ND having to scramble to find a new coach in 2002.

To say Tyrone Willingham was an example of how the school recruited in general, rather than the 3-4 years the guy before BK arrived is just you looking for anything to harp on to make excuses. It's just fricking ignorant.

If you want to be ignorant and live in your excuses, be my guest. I've laid out the facts for you, deny them if you want.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53452 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:58 am to
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Also, all those classes you have ranked 8th are top5 on On3. You went searching to find the worst rankings you can find.


Um no, I used Rivals because they were basically the only service ranking recruiting classes back then.

On3 was not around.

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Beyond that, you are just highlighting the Tyrone Willingham era, who had the worst recruiting classes for ND probably in their entire history. I guess you don't ND getting hit with sanctions in 2000, and you don't remember George O'Leary getting fired after like a week of being on the job for ND and ND having to scramble to find a new coach in 2002.

To say Tyrone Willingham was an example of how the school recruited in general, rather than the 3-4 years the guy before BK arrived is just you looking for anything to harp on to make excuses. It's just fricking ignorant.

If you want to be ignorant and live in your excuses, be my guest. I've laid out the facts for you, deny them if you want.


Willingham was only at Notre Dame from 2002-2004.

I gave you 2002-2009. 2002 is as far back as Rivals goes. Kelly was hired prior to the 2010 season.

Not only are you attempting to deflect now that your narrative has been debunked, you're an outright liar.


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