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re: Explain the Harsin comparisons to DeBoer with logic.

Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:23 pm to
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The fact that you're having to claim moral victories over scoring or not scoring garbage time points in single game matchups tells us both just how similar they are.



I'm not claiming moral anything. In fact, I'm being generous by not even talking about the fact Deboer has a win, and just looked at the losses as if all things are equal.

Regardless of what you want to claim, BK was repeatedly embarrassed on the big stage.

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No reason to lie about their recruiting. Times have changed, Grandpa. Notre Dame hasn't been an elite program in a very long time.

Also, like I said, if you want to talk bad recruiting, we can put both guys in that category.


I didn't tell a single lie about their recruiting. They pulled in top5 classes and top talent regularly before Brian Kelly. ND was the only school to have it's own deal with a major network, and that network didn't show others.

I don't know how long you've been a fan of the game, but your view point of ND is obviously based on the BK years, not what they actually were before then. I guess it's just another example of an LSU fan thinking college football started in the year 2000.

We'll see how DeBoer recruits, it's certainly something to keep an eye on...once he can actually start recruiting.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:32 pm to
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In fact, I'm being generous by not even talking about the fact Deboer has a win, and just looked at the losses as if all things are equal.


Don't be "generous" on my account.

We both know BK faced elite teams in the postseason while DeBoer's win came over a very flawed Texas team that they were a perfect matchup for.

I mean this entire thread is about using logic.

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I didn't tell a single lie about their recruiting. They pulled in top5 classes and top talent regularly before Brian Kelly. ND was the only school to have it's own deal with a major network, and that network didn't show others


List their decade of classes prior to BK then.

We both know you won't because they actually didn't consistently recruit in top 5.

They only fell further and further behind in the 2000's as the actual elite programs invested more and more.

These days, Notre Dame still has a huge brand but they're only a top 15 program.
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 6:37 pm to
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I don't know how long you've been a fan of the game, but your view point of ND is obviously based on the BK years, not what they actually were before then. I guess it's just another example of an LSU fan thinking college football started in the year 2000.





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