I made a mistake earlier, Deboer lost by 21, not 17.

But we can dive a little deeper since you want. I certainly don't mind.

In 2012, 14 of the points BK scored happened in garbage time, and the only thing he could do at half time was talk about how good the other team was.

In 2020, 7 of the points BK scored happened in garbage time.

BK's teams scored a total of 10 points non garbage time points in 3 games. A single TD in 2020 and a single FG in 2018. He is the poster boy for being outclassed and outcoached.

DeBoer hasn't even had garbage time in these games. 14 of the 21 points he lost by were scored in the 4th quarter. So you can pretend like those losses were equal, but BK's losses were worse than the scores showed.

I don't know what to tell you, they are not the same. If BK came to Alabama, that would have been a melt.

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I said they generally don't recruit top 10, Notre Dame hasn't been an elite program for awhile.

If you want to talk bad recruiting, then DeBoer certainly fits in that conversation as well.

They recruited top5 until Kelly came. Their coaches just never coached up the talent.

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Posted by SidewalkTiger

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Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:12 pm to 3down10

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I don't know what to tell you, they are not the same. If BK came to Alabama, that would have been a melt.

The fact that you're having to claim moral victories over scoring or not scoring garbage time points in single game matchups tells us both just how similar they are.

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They recruited top5 until Kelly came. Their coaches just never coached up the talent.

No reason to lie about their recruiting. Times have changed, Grandpa. Notre Dame hasn't been an elite program in a very long time.

Also, like I said, if you want to talk bad recruiting, we can put both guys in that category.

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