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re: Explain the Harsin comparisons to DeBoer with logic.

Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
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It's kind of like you saying BK was a bad hire even though DeBoer is very similar.



BK spent 11 years at a blue blood, and has spent 2 years at LSU so far. Despite coaching at some of the top programs in the country for 13 years now, he doesn't have a single post season win as a championship contender. He's an older coach and has always struggled against better competition, and I'm being nice when I say he has only struggled.

DeBoer does, and he's younger with much less experience.

In fact, DeBoer took over Washington the same year BK took over LSU. Washington went to the national championship game, LSU finished 5th in the SEC. And DeBoer did it with less talent according to recruiting ratings. DeBoer also took over a team that only had 4 wins the year before he took over, a team in much worse shape than LSU when BK took over. A team so bad, they fired the head coach 9 games into his 2nd year.

BK will need to win 3 playoff games without losses to have a .500 record in post season championship play. If Deboer won his next 3 playoff games without losses, his post season championship record would be .800. And since he's coach of Alabama now, it's the more likely of the 2 possibilities.

What are these similarities other than being white guys without SEC ties? You keep saying it over and over, but you don't really offer any evidence to support it.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:54 pm to
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What are these similarities other than being white guys without SEC ties? You keep saying it over and over, but you don't really offer any evidence to support it.


They're both guys with no SEC ties, their prior recruiting has been questioned, they're well respected coaches, a lot of staff continuity, and they've won everywhere they've been.

DeBoer played for a natty in his 2nd season at the P5 level and Kelly did in his 3rd, both were dominated.

The biggest difference in Kelly is 0-2 in playoff games and DeBoer is 1-0, but as we've said, Kelly ran into some elite teams where DeBoer had a perfect matchup for his team.

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BK spent 11 years at a blue blood,


Being a blue blood doesn't mean shite anymore. Notre Dame isn't a top 10 team in terms of talent, recruiting, facilities, or NIL resources. They aren't as financially committed to football as the actual elite programs, it's why they haven't won a major bowl game in 30 years.
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