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Ranking Alabama hires during my lifetime (and since the Bear)
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:43 pm
This is biased by hindsight, but
1. Saban (best hire in football history)
2. Stallings (daddy Gene was the perfect Bama man)
3. DeBoer
4. Perkins
5. Dubose (had a glimmer of hope he would be ok)
6. Curry
7. Fran
8. Shula
9. Price
After number 3 they were all subpar. Fran felt like the best we could get at the time. Shula was desperation.
Edit: can't believe I forgot Dubose. PTSD I guess.
1. Saban (best hire in football history)
2. Stallings (daddy Gene was the perfect Bama man)
3. DeBoer
4. Perkins
5. Dubose (had a glimmer of hope he would be ok)
6. Curry
7. Fran
8. Shula
9. Price
After number 3 they were all subpar. Fran felt like the best we could get at the time. Shula was desperation.
Edit: can't believe I forgot Dubose. PTSD I guess.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 4:47 pm
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:50 pm to Decker
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9. Price
shite. I wish I was 18 and could have partied with him.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:54 pm to Decker
Dubose has to be further down the list. Was god awful and left us in awful shape and on probation. He might be last.
All the other coaches got other coaching opportunities at a high level. No one wanted that piece of shite but a dinky high school
All the other coaches got other coaching opportunities at a high level. No one wanted that piece of shite but a dinky high school
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:55 pm to Decker
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2. Stallings (daddy Gene was the perfect Bama man)
Can make an argument Stallings got lucky. He was a loser everywhere else, was a terrible recruiter at Alabama and was in charge when Bama’s NCAA problems started.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:01 pm to Decker
Fran at 5. He did a pretty good job minus the Auburn game in 2002.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:33 pm to Decker
1. Saban
2. Stallings
3. DeBoer - could move up.
4. Perkins
5. Dubose
6. Shula - never had a fair shake due to probation numbers and major injuries, but still had a 10 win season.
7. Fran - hamstrung by scholly reductions
8. Curry
9. Price
2. Stallings
3. DeBoer - could move up.
4. Perkins
5. Dubose
6. Shula - never had a fair shake due to probation numbers and major injuries, but still had a 10 win season.
7. Fran - hamstrung by scholly reductions
8. Curry
9. Price
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:40 pm to Decker
Dubose was a basically one of those wind up monkeys with the cymbals. A total clown. #8
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:35 pm to Decker
Two things I'll never forget from my time at the Capstone.
1) As a freshman in 2000, walking across the Quad for a Monday, 8 a.m. class (wth was I thinking?) After losing to either LSU or UCF and seeing a Dubose dummy, complete with sweater and headset, hanging from a tree on the Quad.
2) After Fran left us someone posted his cell on the front door of the Corner Store(RIP). I called it and his VM was absolutely him. My friends and I called it later that night and someone hacked his VM, changed the message and it said something to the effect of: "you have reached coach Fran. I'm the lying son of a bitch that left yall hanging in the middle of the night... blah, blah." It was classic. And there was a car that someone had written on the back glass: "Fran, your heart may be in Texas, but your daughter's flower stays in T-town." Ouch.
1) As a freshman in 2000, walking across the Quad for a Monday, 8 a.m. class (wth was I thinking?) After losing to either LSU or UCF and seeing a Dubose dummy, complete with sweater and headset, hanging from a tree on the Quad.
2) After Fran left us someone posted his cell on the front door of the Corner Store(RIP). I called it and his VM was absolutely him. My friends and I called it later that night and someone hacked his VM, changed the message and it said something to the effect of: "you have reached coach Fran. I'm the lying son of a bitch that left yall hanging in the middle of the night... blah, blah." It was classic. And there was a car that someone had written on the back glass: "Fran, your heart may be in Texas, but your daughter's flower stays in T-town." Ouch.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:57 pm to Decker
What are you basing your rankings on? Pre-hire hype, obviously, because Mike Shula ultimately should be ranked ahead of Curry, Fran, and Price.
Bill Curry never should have gotten a fricking interview.
Bill Curry never should have gotten a fricking interview.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:34 am to Decker
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1. Saban (best hire in football history) 2. Stallings (daddy Gene was the perfect Bama man) 3. DeBoer 4. Perkins 5. Dubose (had a glimmer of hope he would be ok) 6. Curry 7. Fran 8. Shula 9. Price
You can’t really rank DeBoer before he coaches a game here.
Fran is better than Dumbose. I hate how he left us too but he was a much better coach. I’m too young(but still getting old lol) to have experienced Perkins and Curry so I won’t pass judgement. However, I don’t believe either got us on probation and led to the darkest era in Bama football history, the Shula years. So, I’d put both about Dubose. Honestly Price never coaching a game may still be better than Shula and possibly Dubose. Lol
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:03 am to Decker
If we are basing this hire solely on the perception at the time then Fran has to be at 4. Yeah, he turned out to be a snake oil salesman, but he was a fairly hot commodity when we grabbed him from TCU.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:37 am to Decker
Perkins was not sub par. He came from the NFL.
Franchione, while a rat fink, was pretty good, he just bailed because he didn't want to face the NCAA results. They say he was misled.
Price was a good hire on paper and I think we would have won decently with him...he just couldn't handle it.
Shula faced the music that Francione wouldn't....he wasn't great, but those sanctions were devastating.
Ranking Daboer anywhere is premature.
Franchione, while a rat fink, was pretty good, he just bailed because he didn't want to face the NCAA results. They say he was misled.
Price was a good hire on paper and I think we would have won decently with him...he just couldn't handle it.
Shula faced the music that Francione wouldn't....he wasn't great, but those sanctions were devastating.
Ranking Daboer anywhere is premature.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:50 am to Decker
1) no argument there
2) was a walk on his first season, closest thing to Coach Bryant-legitimately cared about every single person inside the entire football complex. Sorensen and Bockrath pushed him out.
3) Perkins here for me. First to attempt to take over for the GOAT.
4) DeBoer- has the cahones to replace our latest and greatest GOAT and accepts the challenge!
5) Shula- the bandaid that got himself ripped away because he refused to make changes.
6) Curry- first attempt to break away from being one of “Bear’s boys”. I was a walk on his last season. He told us at the 30 year reunion for the ‘89 SEC championship team that we were a damn good team and would’ve been National Champions had we had a better HC.
7)Francione I had high hopes for him because he came in saying all of the right things and then bailed like a thief in the night when the sanctions from DuBose era came down. How he left will always sit poorly with me.
8) Price- got my hopes up to see some offense where it was more than 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Instead we got 1 Spring and a fat arse old man and a Stripper partying on UA’s dime.
9) DuBose- I never agreed with his hiring as HC and I didn’t as DC the year before him taking over after Stallings. The old guard stepped in to reinforce the “Bear’s boy” hiring practice and it was an immediate failure. How in the Hell that buffoon won a title in ‘99 is beyond me. Bagman Dabo worked pretty hard I guess.
2) was a walk on his first season, closest thing to Coach Bryant-legitimately cared about every single person inside the entire football complex. Sorensen and Bockrath pushed him out.
3) Perkins here for me. First to attempt to take over for the GOAT.
4) DeBoer- has the cahones to replace our latest and greatest GOAT and accepts the challenge!
5) Shula- the bandaid that got himself ripped away because he refused to make changes.
6) Curry- first attempt to break away from being one of “Bear’s boys”. I was a walk on his last season. He told us at the 30 year reunion for the ‘89 SEC championship team that we were a damn good team and would’ve been National Champions had we had a better HC.
7)Francione I had high hopes for him because he came in saying all of the right things and then bailed like a thief in the night when the sanctions from DuBose era came down. How he left will always sit poorly with me.
8) Price- got my hopes up to see some offense where it was more than 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Instead we got 1 Spring and a fat arse old man and a Stripper partying on UA’s dime.
9) DuBose- I never agreed with his hiring as HC and I didn’t as DC the year before him taking over after Stallings. The old guard stepped in to reinforce the “Bear’s boy” hiring practice and it was an immediate failure. How in the Hell that buffoon won a title in ‘99 is beyond me. Bagman Dabo worked pretty hard I guess.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:51 am to Decker
Had Perkins stayed I think he would have been successful and just think how many others that followed would never have been a HC at Bama. Assuming he stayed 20 years. Gene and Dubose for sure
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:27 pm to Decker
I would put DeBoer ahead of Stallings. I don’t think anyone was turning cartwheels over Stallings in 1990.
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