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re: Sarkisians Offense at Bama and What made it Work
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:54 pm to Robot Santa
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:54 pm to Robot Santa
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No one actually cares about the style of the offense though.
The recruits care. How can we recruit a 5* QB or any other position if we cant even tell him what style offense we play, or how we will prepare them for the NFL ?
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People only care about how effective it is.
Kinda my point in this thread- weve already seen what was more effective. WTF are we going away from it because of one players limitations ?
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That group was loaded with extremely talented upperclassmen and that kind of roster is nearly impossible to build in the portal/NIL era.
I disagree. I think transfers and the portal make it easier to have an upperclassmen roster. Look what kiffin is doing.
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the OC is as responsibile for making things work as anyone.
Completely agree, but hes not a gusbus guru so - what good is he ? Are we going to rewrite the entire offense and identity of the team for one limited player ?
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You have to tailor the system to your personnel
100% agree but we have to decide who we are going to be. With all our success why would we recruit anyone that didnt have the same traits as AJ, Tua, Mac, Bryce ?
The kind of QBs that can make the critical decisions, stretch the field, and protect the ball.
Im at a total loss why Bama is trying to "develop" a QB for 4 years in this new era of semi pro ball with unlimited free agency.
At the BEST program in America. Makes zero sense to me. The GOAT aint getting any younger. We should be able to go out and get a pro style QB if one of the younger guys arent going to be ready Tick tock...
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 4:00 pm
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:41 pm to PowHound
PowHound, which is it? Is this thread specifically targeting Milroe and his current limitations, or not?
You can't claim
when you're also saying
Full disclosure: I was hoping Ty Simpson would win the job this year, because I thought he offered a better shot at becoming a more athletic Mac Jones or AJ McCarron-type QB than Milroe did.
Milroe wasn't the sole reason for our offensive struggles this year, but I do think he was about 50% of them (with another 25% being our OC, and the final 25% our offensive line and center issues). Milroe was either boom-or-bust, constantly looking for the big play when moving the chains (or even just getting positive yardage) would have been preferable.
I firmly believe Milroe was done no favors by Bill O'Brien, and his development suffered as a result. Things he should be able to do as a QB -- adjust protection, read the defense pre-snap at a high level, identify and hit his checkdowns immediately after the snap if needed -- he either couldn't or struggled to do consistently.
It's not just a matter of being an upperclassman. Time in a particular offensive system and familiarity with defenses plays a huge role. I hope Milroe (and Simpson, and Lonergan) all get much more comfortable in the off-season and progress considerably, just as Mac did.
But constantly harping on Milroe's failures (if that's what this is, and it's hard to justify it being anything else) doesn't accomplish anything. I think we're all disappointed that Alabama isn't in the championship game, especially when it was within our grasp. By the same token, this team overachieved this year relative to what we all expected in mid-September.
You can't claim
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It has nothing to do with Milroe.
when you're also saying
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Most of this board has no idea how limited we were because we were so limited at QB.
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WTF are we going away from it [an effective offense] because of one players limitations?
Full disclosure: I was hoping Ty Simpson would win the job this year, because I thought he offered a better shot at becoming a more athletic Mac Jones or AJ McCarron-type QB than Milroe did.
Milroe wasn't the sole reason for our offensive struggles this year, but I do think he was about 50% of them (with another 25% being our OC, and the final 25% our offensive line and center issues). Milroe was either boom-or-bust, constantly looking for the big play when moving the chains (or even just getting positive yardage) would have been preferable.
I firmly believe Milroe was done no favors by Bill O'Brien, and his development suffered as a result. Things he should be able to do as a QB -- adjust protection, read the defense pre-snap at a high level, identify and hit his checkdowns immediately after the snap if needed -- he either couldn't or struggled to do consistently.
It's not just a matter of being an upperclassman. Time in a particular offensive system and familiarity with defenses plays a huge role. I hope Milroe (and Simpson, and Lonergan) all get much more comfortable in the off-season and progress considerably, just as Mac did.
But constantly harping on Milroe's failures (if that's what this is, and it's hard to justify it being anything else) doesn't accomplish anything. I think we're all disappointed that Alabama isn't in the championship game, especially when it was within our grasp. By the same token, this team overachieved this year relative to what we all expected in mid-September.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 4:43 pm
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