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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:48 pm
Posted by CelticTiger
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:48 pm
When assistants and/or head coaches are recruited to other programs do they typically give their existing employer the opportunity to match or exceed?

Having been in business all my life and an owner and decision-maker in this latter part of it, if we were set to lose talent we would evaluate our needs on an unemotional as possible basis and act accordingly. We pulled some back from the brink and others we shook their hand on the way out the door.

Looking for information or even informed speculation out of curiosity. Please don't answer with childish bashes to Mizzou. Use the other 50+ Mizzou bash threads to do that.
Posted by TexasOnTop
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:49 pm to
Melt
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:49 pm to
We nearly matched what lsu offered
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:50 pm to
I would expect that it is up to the agent. A “right of first refusal” type situation. He then weighs out a (potential) counter-offer from his current job and then decides which direction to go. I think the part that weighed the most was not entirely monetary. His wife would like to come home. It happens.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:50 pm to
Some do, some don't. Probably just depends on the coach and the situation.

Apparently, Mizzou was willing to at least compete with LSU on Baker's salary:

quote:

While his new salary at LSU hasn't been confirmed, Missouri was willing to further raise Baker’s salary from $1.9 million to compete with the LSU's offers of more than $2 million — suggesting Baker’s decision was not motivated by money. 


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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:51 pm to
Depends on if they are conflicted on if they would rather stay or leave.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:51 pm to
Melty McMeltface
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36636 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:52 pm to
The Notre Dame AD publicly complained about not being given an opportunity to counter LSU's offer for Kelly.

Les Miles and Corey Raymond used other teams to bait Alleva into jacking up their salaries multiple times, and it hurt us in recruiting.

Chavis walked away without looking back, but he knew it was about to fall apart.

And there was absolute no smoke about LSU trying to match ND's offer for Denbrock.

Those are just LSU examples off the top of my head.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:01 am to
quote:

When assistants and/or head coaches are recruited to other programs do they typically give their existing employer the opportunity to match or exceed? Having been in business all my life and an owner and decision-maker in this latter part of it, if we were set to lose talent we would evaluate our needs on an unemotional as possible basis and act accordingly. We pulled some back from the brink and others we shook their hand on the way out the door. Looking for information or even informed speculation out of curiosity. Please don't answer with childish bashes to Mizzou. Use the other 50+ Mizzou bash threads to do that.




Unlike regular business, coaches have agents who generally get the ball rolling with the knowledge of their client’s preferences as far as job locations are.

Who knows who or how this was initiated but it happens all the time.
Posted by TigerCard
Cleveland, OH
Member since Nov 2009
894 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:18 am to
There are so many variables ... If a coach is truly on the fence about where to leave, a counteroffer might persuade him to stay. And some coaches look for offers for the sole reason of getting a raise from their present employers. But coaches don't always leave for financial reasons. It could be the attraction of going home or, at least, to the pat of the country where he feels most at home. It could be because of a promotion, or the chance to move to a more prestigious program. Or perhaps he has connections to one or more of the coaches at the new school. In those cases, a counteroffer probably wouldn't carry much weight. And who wants to talk someone into staying if they truly want to leave for whatever reason.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46351 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:50 am to
quote:

When assistants and/or head coaches are recruited to other programs do they typically give their existing employer the opportunity to match or exceed?

Having been in business all my life and an owner and decision-maker in this latter part of it, if we were set to lose talent we would evaluate our needs on an unemotional as possible basis and act accordingly. We pulled some back from the brink and others we shook their hand on the way out the door.

Looking for information or even informed speculation out of curiosity. Please don't answer with childish bashes to Mizzou. Use the other 50+ Mizzou bash threads to do that.


Dude wanted to coach for LSU, he got a few extra bucks, his wife is happy, this kinda shite happens every year, it's part of big time college football.

Now Drink needs to prove he can convince a capable DC to step in and keep the program moving forward.
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