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Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:48 pm to Hawaiian Punch
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:48 pm to Hawaiian Punch
I honestly think Milroe has been getting a bad rap from the fans on how he performed this season. Has he been the best hell no, but there has been quite a few games where he single handedly led us to a win. The LSU and Auburn game are prime examples of that.
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:59 pm to qman91
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quite a few games where he single handedly led us to a win. The LSU and Auburn game are prime examples of that
I hate when people say this about a player in a team sport. It's just not true.
Not only that, but in the Auburn game, you're referencing one throw. What if he had just made all the simple reads and throws that he could have made throughout the game? We would have been up multiple scores and wouldn't have needed a hail Mary at the end. We won the game. Milroe, like every player on the team, made some plays and blew some. But, if you say Milroe was the reason we won the Auburn game, I'll just counter that he was A reason we nearly lost.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:07 pm to Teague
I agree with you that he didn't singlehandedly win games last season. He was instrumental in several, but he was detrimental in a lot of those games as well, mostly in the first halves. Of course playcalling was subpar at times-I felt that we could have taken a lot pressure off of the passing game with our run game. We had the horses to do it. And lastly, pairing a green QB that doesn't have great pocket awareness with an all-time bad Oline was simply a bad recipe.
I will say that just by reading many posters' thoughts on here, and on social media regarding Milroe's capabilities and potential between the 2023 A&M game and the 2024 USF game, he clearly exceeded many peoples expectations, even if they don't want to admit it.
I will say that just by reading many posters' thoughts on here, and on social media regarding Milroe's capabilities and potential between the 2023 A&M game and the 2024 USF game, he clearly exceeded many peoples expectations, even if they don't want to admit it.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 3/1/24 at 7:17 pm to Funky Tide 8
T arnold had a 4.51 40 yard dash. Thoughts?
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 3/1/24 at 7:25 pm to mrbroker
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T arnold had a 5.1 40 yard dash. Thoughts?
Did you mean 4.51?
Posted on 3/1/24 at 7:35 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Age and dyslexia. Sorry.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:58 pm to Funky Tide 8
quote:He exceeded mine, though I don't mind admitting it - no reputation to protect. I was a big supporter of his during this past year, but after A&M in '23, as you point out, I did not think he had the poise to play at the level he did. A level that admittedly also included serious shortcomings. So, I hold out hope that he, along with anyone else, can make unforeseen improvements.
I will say that just by reading many posters' thoughts on here, and on social media regarding Milroe's capabilities and potential between the 2023 A&M game and the 2024 USF game, he clearly exceeded many peoples expectations, even if they don't want to admit it.
Last year, many fans were all in or all out. IMO, both stances were wrong, he did many things right, including being a good leader and having an 'it' factor that allowed him and Alabama to make big plays when the other team landed a big blow. This happened even in the UTx loss also, when though UTx was the better team, Jalen brought them back twice late (late 3rd and 4th qtrs) in the game but the D continued to wilt anytime UTx needed a score. Though Jalen helped UTx out - but it was much more than his errors, as bad as they were.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:03 pm to tattoo
If Milroe could maximize his potential he would be an absolute stud. He's athletic, strong arm, likeable, etc.
I really want him to be the guy for us next year, but he needs to earn it.
I really want him to be the guy for us next year, but he needs to earn it.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:20 pm to TideSaint
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I really want him to be the guy for us next year, but he needs to earn it.
Would love to see how he operates with a consistently clean snap and an OLine that doesn't allow pressure in his face after half a second.
Would also like to see him LOOK FOR THE CHECKDOWN every now and then.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:47 am to Marktastic86
Agreed. However, there were many, many times where he got decent protection (where he got literally four seconds to get rid of the ball) and took the sack.
On the other hand, I’m hoping our new WR coach will do a better job than Wiggins did with that unit in terms of helping Milroe when he’s in trouble such as come back to help him and a much, much better job blocking.
On the other hand, I’m hoping our new WR coach will do a better job than Wiggins did with that unit in terms of helping Milroe when he’s in trouble such as come back to help him and a much, much better job blocking.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:47 am to Amarillo Tide
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Agreed. However, there were many, many times where he got decent protection (where he got literally four seconds to get rid of the ball) and took the sack.
I don't know if the stat ever changed, but at one point, well into the season, he was holding the ball longer than any QB in the nation.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:09 am to Teague
I’m hopeful the new coaching staff will be able to make improvements with Milroe, a 5 second Twitter video hasn’t moved the needle for me. Hopefully they don’t let meaningless things impact their decision on who starts.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:17 am to Alfie Solomons
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Hopefully they don’t let meaningless things impact their decision on who starts.
Why would they do that?
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:23 am to mrbroker
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T arnold had a 4.51 40 yard dash. Thoughts?
It means that he ran slower than some of the other elite corners testing at the Combine. This may mean that teams that put a lot of emphasis on speed (the late Al Davis comes to mind w/r to receivers) might grade him somewhat lower now.
Teams (GMs, coaches) that place more weight on other test results, how Arnold looks on tape and how he interviews, in other words: the complete package, may not be concerned about his slower (not slow!) 40 yard time. Yes, his recovery speed may be slightly (s)lower, but with all the other qualities Arnold brings as a corner, he may not have to rely on recovery speed as much as some of the other corners out there.
ProFootballNetwork listed Arnold as a riser, despite his 40 time:
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Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama If you only look at 40-yard dash times, Terrion Arnold‘s 4.5 number won’t catch your eye. But don’t let that fool you. Arnold was arguably the best CB through all of the positional drills — a reflection of his status as a legitimate CB1 candidate in the 2024 class. To be clear, Arnold still tested well athletically. His explosiveness numbers were borderline elite. But Arnold’s fluidity, efficient footwork, and snappy redirection freedom stole the show, especially on the W-drill, where his plant-and-drive quickness astounded onlookers.
You can find the full article here: LINK
It also discusses some of the other corners.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:03 pm to tattoo
I was the N in LANK. I doubted Milroe from day 1 and should have given him his chance. Now that he has had his chance I am thankful that he was there. Hopefully he can develop into the all world qb we want him to be. Otherwise there are a few talented players there just waiting for their opportunity.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 12:01 am to Funky Tide 8
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Why would they do that?
I don’t think they would, but plenty of people on here seem to have bought into the idea that things like “winning the locker room” and Milroe’s alleged monopoly on “leadership” have cemented Milroe as the only option for the starting QB, mind you, those things alone don’t really translate into success on the field.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 12:04 am to JojoTide
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I was the N in LANK
Supposedly that letter doesn’t necessarily mean what you think it means, unless that is, you already don’t think it means naysayer.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:41 am to Alfie Solomons
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I don’t think they would, but plenty of people on here seem to have bought into the idea that things like “winning the locker room” and Milroe’s alleged monopoly on “leadership” have cemented Milroe as the only option for the starting QB, mind you, those things alone don’t really translate into success on the field.
I don't think that's the case as much as the recognition that DeBoer is going to have to give Milroe the first crack at the position. He can't afford to alienate players before the Spring Portal opens. Losing players because he's seen as being unfair to Milroe would be potentially disastrous. Of course, he's also going to have to develop the other QBs, and give them a fair shot as well. He'll likely keep the competition open going into Fall Camp. Quite the balancing act.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 9:14 am to Alfie Solomons
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a 5 second Twitter video hasn’t moved the needle for m
Yeah? Well how about this video of him bombing tshirts into the crowd at Coleman!?
Twitter video
Posted on 3/3/24 at 9:22 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
Did he warm up properly?
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