Started By
Message

If the Big 10 added FSU, Clemson, North Carolina and Notre Dame/Miami

Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:29 am
Posted by GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Member since Dec 2014
1644 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:29 am
would they surpass the SEC?

Ohio State
Notre Dame
USC
Michigan
Clemson
Penn State
Washington
Florida State
Oregon
Wisconsin
UCLA
North Carolina
Iowa

That's a pretty good baker's dozen to start with

Recall posters here saying there's no way they'd allow Oklahoma & Texas in the SEC (granted many still don't), but there's a battle underway for the top brands

We have to recognize the changing landscape and realize that there will be strength in numbers going forward and we never want to relegated to second fiddle

Despite emotional negative message board postings, I can't imagine that there aren't serious negotiations underway behind the scenes

Future SEC?

West:
Oklahoma
Missouri
Texas
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Notre Dame
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Kentucky

East:
Alabama
Florida State
Georgia
Clemson
Auburn
North Carolina
Tennessee
Florida
South Carolina
Vanderbilt


Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6010 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:31 am to
It's dog eat dog. If the SEC isn't committed to capturing the remaining significant programs on the board that aren't already in the SEC or Big Ten then they're fricking up.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21983 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:34 am to
They go from having 1 championship in the last 20 years to having 4. Big deal
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14244 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:50 am to
SEC and Big 10 should just break off and leave the NCAA. Pick the top 64 programs and divide it up North and South. Wherever that line is drawn, deal with it.
Posted by New Hampshire Tiger
Member since Sep 2023
499 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:53 am to
Notre Dame?
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6295 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:58 am to
The SEC teams will already receive 100 million per team from the TV deal. The only teams of value that wouldn't dilute the payout would be the Virginia and North Carolina schools.

Clemson, FSU, and Miami have no shot at the SEC. It's not a charity conference. If it doesn't make dollars then it doesn't make sense.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
1042 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 12:06 pm to
FSU is a big brand but it doesn’t bring any extra fans to the SEC in general like the previous expansions did, nor will it elevate FSU.
As much as I don’t like OU or UT, the SEC is making the right moves and I’m looking forward to some great games and hugely increased SEC coverage in Texas.
Posted by EvilJimbo
Earth
Member since Dec 2016
143 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:32 pm to
Not IF…it’s when. FSU will be out of the ACC by August 2025.

3-5 other schools will join FSU to the Big10.

And yes, the new Big10 will be the only true National conference and blow by the SEC in terms of dollars.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
20014 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 4:12 pm to
If sec teams want to play these games then schedule them as OOC games. No sense in putting more teams on the payroll.
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1004 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:44 pm to
If Greg Sankey and the 16 member Presidents of the SEC are shrewd, and I believe they are, then look forward to the next round of SEC Media rights negotiations.

ESPN / Disney are stretched thin. I’ve read stories Disney may spin off ESPN to raise cash. ESPN is their cash cow.

I believe the players wanting to obtain SEC programming will be enormous. The idea of adding any of the schools you mentioned might be and probably would add great value and fit into the SEC footprint.

I just don’t think any one media outlet is rich enough or would want to take on the risk of the type money upcoming on next media deal. The media companies risk is their advertising rates could suffer if games are bad and underperform. Adding the teams you mentioned would help alleviate that concern somewhat.

The current issue is the SEC’s nemesis, Big 10, might make preemptive move and snatch these teams. Their media partners, NBC, CBS, FOX combined make a formidable force against Disney.

Lastly, I believe a real discussion will be had about the bottom feeders of the SEC. I won’t mention their names but their contribution is paltry compared to the top half.

Vandy reaps huge financial gain but does nothing to help ratings. Same can be said for others

I see a 32 team super league. It would have a commissioner, a new media contract, and ties with existing conferences a memory. Not saying the SEC, Big Ten, Acc, Big 12 would not continue. They would.

The new league, would consist of teams with the largest fan bases and media ratings. I think we can all figure who that would be.

So yes, these teams you mentioned are all national brands with huge fan bases.

Will be interesting these next five years to see what happens.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17516 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

GAT BoilerPickle Doc


Dude’s team isn’t even part of the SEC yet and he is worrying about “what ifs” with the Big10……..
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2778 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 8:41 pm to
In no world will Notre Dame end up in the SEC. Period. Offer them the mom, they aren’t taking it.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7362 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 8:24 am to
quote:

West:
Notre Dame



I'm torn on this. Part of me says "HELL NO!".

Then again, it would be a mighty blow against the B1G to take their "ultimate goal".
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26994 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 3:07 pm to
With their own TV deal with NBC, why would Notre Dame join either conference? They wouldn't.

Notre Dame gets $22M a year. The new SEC contract with ESPN is for $300M...only $18.75 per school...and that's before the league office takes their cut.
This post was edited on 12/23/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5885 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:46 am to
quote:

would they surpass the SEC?


YES, but if we drop a&m and add Tulane, then NO.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7362 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 9:04 am to
Delete
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 9:26 am
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter