re: It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games

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you believe a player on a team that doesn't win a single game is Heisman material

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Is the award an individual award or a team award?

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flawed logic

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a key cog in the machine such as a QB that can drive a team to victory by his own superlative actions on the field

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So the qb can play all 22 positions on every down. I had not heard that.

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Daniels failed to lift his team up and overcome the poor defense of lsu on 3 separate occasions. That's 3 failures

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Dang. And to think people like you are allowed to vote in elections.

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Cam Newton didn't have 3 failures; he was a winner. Cam Newton, and most other Heisman winners, have been an integral reason for the success of their teams

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Now that you mention it, I do remember Cam playing all 22 positions on every snap. That was something.