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re: It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games

Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:12 am to
Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:12 am to
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I did. It seems to me that some people are not being objective because they just can't stand to see an SEC rival do well. Daniels was clearly, far and away the better player.

SEC fans want to say the SEC is the toughest conference. Daniels had the better numbers in the tougher conference. It's no contest. Trying to smuggle in team accomplishments is childish.


Running your flawed logic out to its end would indicate that you believe a player on a team that doesn't win a single game is Heisman material.

Not only a miscellaneous player but, a key cog in the machine such as a QB that can drive a team to victory by his own superlative actions on the field.

Daniels failed to lift his team up and overcome the poor defense of lsu on 3 separate occasions. That's 3 failures.

Cam Newton didn't have 3 failures; he was a winner. Cam Newton, and most other Heisman winners, have been an integral reason for the success of their teams.

When auburn sucked as a whole during certain games in 2010, Cam Newton put the team on his back and led them to victory.

Jayden Daniels and his supporters have only made excuses for being losers.
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:05 am to
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Jayden Daniels and his supporters have only made excuses for being losers.

Well said
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 11:39 pm to
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you believe a player on a team that doesn't win a single game is Heisman material
Is the award an individual award or a team award?

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flawed logic


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a key cog in the machine such as a QB that can drive a team to victory by his own superlative actions on the field
So the qb can play all 22 positions on every down. I had not heard that.

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Daniels failed to lift his team up and overcome the poor defense of lsu on 3 separate occasions. That's 3 failures
Dang. And to think people like you are allowed to vote in elections.

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Cam Newton didn't have 3 failures; he was a winner. Cam Newton, and most other Heisman winners, have been an integral reason for the success of their teams
Now that you mention it, I do remember Cam playing all 22 positions on every snap. That was something.
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