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re: It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:55 pm to FoTownBam
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:55 pm to FoTownBam
quote:You're making my point for me. Very few people don't know that win/loss for starting pitcher is one of the WORST ways to evaluate a pitcher. Just like it's idiotic to judge Daniels/Nix/Penix by the way their TEAM performed. None of them played all 22 positions on every snap. It's a completely stupid way to evaluate them.
Quarterbacks are judged on wins/losses just like starting pitchers in baseball
quote:So because a bunch of stupid people say something stupid, don't state facts to set the record straight. That's what you're advocating?
Like it or not, that’s the way it is
quote:Neither did Penix/Nix make their defenses play better. What a dumb statement.
Daniels simply couldn’t overcome the terrible defensive play and bad coaching from his team
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Just another case of a great player on a bad team
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:44 pm to TheQuestion
Not sure why it matters. Jd will win the heisman. A lot of times they don’t give every single award to the eventual heisman winner. It’s kinda rare to have a clean sweep of the awards qualified for by anyone
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:58 am to TheQuestion
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You're making my point for me. Very few people don't know that win/loss for starting pitcher is one of the WORST ways to evaluate a pitcher. Just like it's idiotic to judge Daniels/Nix/Penix by the way their TEAM performed. None of them played all 22 positions on every snap. It's a completely stupid way to evaluate them.
And none of those QBs caught the passes they threw, either. So, do we throw out passing yards and passing TD's as a metric?
Like it or not that is how they are judged. Is it fair? Maybe. maybe not. But if a pitcher has a 4.50ERA and wins 300+ games he will be in the Hall of Fame. If you don't like that, then you should take it up with the powers that be. I doubt it will do any good though, because the fact is when things are not going well, and teammates are not playing well, the star finds a way to take his team to a win. LSU beat one good team this year. Missouri. They lost to the other three good teams they played against.
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