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It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games

Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:50 pm
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
199 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:50 pm
It is also factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated against good teams and Daniels was 0-3 or 1-4.

It is also factually incorrect to say that Penix "won when everything was on the line" and Daniels did not.

I don't have a dog in that fight but, those are stupid narratives and that kind of sophistry should have nothing to do with the award because it only serves to cheapen it and cfb as a whole.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24633 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:51 pm to
It is factually incorrect to say this is a good post.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:53 pm to
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It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games


Posted by KurtSchrute
Member since Oct 2017
820 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:53 pm to
You're special.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
20017 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:08 pm to
Yep, Bowers deserves the award because he’s the best offensive player in college football, imo.


Given the choice of any player offensively for my team I’d pick him. He would be instantly the best player on our team.
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:42 pm to
Quarterbacks are judged on wins/losses just like starting pitchers in baseball. Like it or not, that’s the way it is. Daniels simply couldn’t overcome the terrible defensive play and bad coaching from his team. Just another case of a great player on a bad team
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5623 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:46 pm to
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It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games


It is factually incorrect to say you are not mentally retarded.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:01 am to
You keep using the phrase "factually incorrect." I do not think it means what you think it means, Fezzik. The fact is that LSU - and therefore by extension every single player on LSU's team - has three losses on the season. Is that the most fair method of judging QB play? Perhaps not, but you and I both know that it is used that way nevertheless. I think Daniels will win the Heisman tonight and I'm cool with that, he deserves it, but if he doesn't win the only reason will be those three losses.
Posted by Fanatic4U
Member since Dec 2023
675 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:15 am to
It is factually correct to say you’re an idiot and nobody gives a frick what you say. Jayden Daniels will win the heisman so deal with it
Posted by GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Member since Dec 2014
1645 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:36 am to
It is factually correct to say that neither played on defense

Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
414 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:41 am to
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that kind of sophistry

You’re whole post is a work of sophistry
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262346 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:42 am to
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Daniels lost 3 game


Factually incorrect.

GUmps had to take him out in order to win.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10194 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:44 am to
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It is also factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated


Who defeated him?
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18120 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 11:44 pm to
I think thequestion is who's alter are you?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4878 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:08 am to
It’s factually correct to say Jayden won the Heisman.
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