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re: Does all the SEC think Jayden should win the Heisman?

Posted on 11/14/23 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 2:17 pm to
Yeah. Wins matter. Also, lets not act like Penix has bad stats.

If Daniels had one big win to hang his hat on I would be more likely to go with him.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 2:24 pm to
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Also, lets not act like Penix has bad stats.


He's got -27 yds rushing!! What's his passing stats against even say a top 50 defense???
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 2:25 pm to
No one is saying Penix or Nix stats are not good. Answer these questions:

1) Does LSU win or keep close against FSU, Bama, Ole Miss, Missouri, or Florida? I say no. Daniels is the reason LSU won or those games were close.

2) Would you rather have Daniels, Penix, or Nix for a last minute drive to score a TD to win the game? I say Daniels. He has done it this year. Nix had one drive to tie a game and his kicker missed the field goal.

3) Why does the “best player” award have to go a player on “best team”?

Didn’t Lamar win it the year he lost to Deshaun Watson and Clemson went to national championship game? Didn’t Tebow and Manziel win it when they did not win the conference?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 2:36 pm to
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If Daniels had one big win to hang his hat on I would be more likely to go with him.


This is true. I can not think of Daniel’s “Heisman Moment”. The one superhuman play that a Heisman voter who just watches the highlights sees and says “yes, that is the best player in the country.” He also doesn’t have any big game winning plays. He hasn’t pulled victory from the jaws of defeat, winning a game that LSU should have lost. That is important, because lets not act like Heisman voters keep up with every game that every candidate plays in. They are casting their votes on 1) highlights, and 2) the aforementioned politics. While most LSU fans have watched almost every play that Daniels has played this year, no Heisman voters have. Most of them have seen some highlights and many watched the Alabama game. And that is what they will use to evaluate and rank Daniels on. It isn’t right, but it is.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 2:39 pm
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