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re: Why doesn’t transitive property work?

Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:44 am to
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:44 am to
quote:

there are a thousand variables that do not remain consistent week to week




And if they did, they would no longer be variables
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11334 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Humans have this weird thing about not being super consistent.
Even more so when we're talking about 18-23 year old young men.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5977 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:50 am to
Because transitive property doesn’t take into account matchups. Some teams may be ill-equipped to handle certain things but exceptional at handling other.
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
4061 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:58 am to
I’ve noticed a lot of the laughers sure do use it a lot…but only when it suits them of course.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10095 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:02 am to
There's billions of variables that go into the outcome of any one game, not thousands
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 9:04 am
Posted by HongDong
Member since Jan 2020
176 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:06 am to
Transitive property does not take into account variables.

Edit: Lol should have read further. Already been answered.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 9:07 am
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2800 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:14 am to
Simple. Some teams have the ability to expose a weakness that other teams don't, especially when you have a huge number of variables on a football team. You have facing a QB that absolutely sucks against zone but eats man up, and your defense is primarily play man to man. You are SOL because you are not going to change your entire defense up for one game. You have a left tackle that is flawless unless he is up a DE that has a great chop spin. The other team has a DE who is mediocre except his chop-spin is out of this world. That QB is getting hit all day.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 9:16 am
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4539 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:16 am to
Ole Miss:
@Bama 10-24 L
Arky 27-20 W
@Aub 28-21 W

Texas A&M:
Bama 20-26 L
vs Arky 34-22 W
Aub 27-10 W

A&M should be favored right? Based on transitive property. But the problem is A&Ms defensive weakness plays into strength for OM. Matchups matter.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3297 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Humans have this weird thing about not being super consistent.


Respect especially at college age

Throw in the match up issues in college

You can have a future NFL HOFer playing along side future lumber salesman of the year ...and opposing school may have the exact weapon to pick on the weakest link
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 10:26 am to
I didnt know it was possible to not know the answer to this question.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13178 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:53 am to
Because teams match up differently.
Posted by WhiskeyRiverBlues
In my boat down on the river
Member since Aug 2023
2714 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:56 am to
Football is about individual matchups
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64208 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:13 pm to
The transitive property actually does work most of the time for predicting W/L but point spreads are another matter altogether with too many variables at play.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5040 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:21 pm to
Texas beat Alabama
Oklahoma beat Texas

If games were played now, Alabama would smoke Oklahoma and Texas.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14896 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

There's billions of variables that go into the outcome of any one game, not thousands




That's like saying we're made of molecules not atoms.
Posted by SailorGator
Member since Sep 2014
1395 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Why doesn’t transitive property work?


matchups of strengths and weaknesses.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
5376 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 1:12 pm to
because football teams aren't numbers, they're (weighted) random number generators.
Posted by Red Boarman
Member since Oct 2023
329 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 1:18 pm to
Something something play the game.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24981 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Why doesn’t transitive property work?


1. Matchups

2. Humans are not robots that perform the same task the same each time.

3. Refs (if LSU is involved)
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10224 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 2:34 pm to
Bama lost to Texas
Texas lost to OU
OU lost to Kansas
Kansas lost to Oklahoma St.
Oklahoma St. lost to South Alabama
South Alabama lost to Central Michigan
Central Michigan lost to Buffalo
Buffalo lost to Fordham
Fordham lost to Holy Cross
Holy Cross lost to Harvard

Harvard better than Bama at football & academics
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