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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:47 pm to
The discourse here is a bit weird. Rylan Griffen was our best defender realistically. He was elite on the ball at times, but he was also inconsistent, especially when his assignment worked off the ball a lot. Having said that, the defensive woes were mostly due to the lack of a true rim protector (Nelson had spurts but incredibly inconsistent) and the lack of length from surrounding help defenders.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 7:49 pm
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:48 pm to
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Gideon Swashbuckler


It took Alabama’s first final four to bring Chad back to the board. You need to simmer down, fella.

You’d think we didn’t just have the best postseason in Bama basketball history the way this thread is going.

Guys, we made it to the FINAL FOUR!!! Let’s be happy for at least a month…and that’s coming from someone who is a pessimist by nature
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 7:50 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:56 pm to
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Rylan was about to say “Weakass Drop Coverage” what he fails to realize is when you have an elite rim protector the drop coverage is a great defense


He realized that as he started to say it, and then said "well not weak-arse," and even added something along the lines of "depends on the big."

I think y'all are better off ignoring his IG videos. The dude loves WWE; you think he has a problem riling y'all up and looking like a villain?
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:06 pm to
Yeah I don't get the negativity here. A good role player isn't easy to replace, but is replaceable. I mean we did just that today. Youngblood is also a bit bodied guard who can fill it up from 3, and he's more experienced. And who knows, maybe he ends up being a star at this level. Either way, we're fine. This is just the nature of the sport now. You don't have to like it, but players are going to transfer. Good players. Starters even. The best programs tend to replace them with someone just as good though. We are at that point as a program.

Sears coming back to college and going into the portal is the only one worth freaking out over.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 8:07 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:13 pm to
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Sears coming back to college and going into the portal is the only one worth freaking out over.


Yeah. I'm on the edge of my seat for Sears and Nelson (a consistent aggressive mindset away from being a Naismith and Wooden award candidate).

Griffen was an unexpected hit, but far from irreplaceable.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:17 pm to
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Griffen was an unexpected hit, but far from irreplaceable.


He was only unexpected for your average fan. Apparently there'd been very quiet rumors he was going to leave, back around mid season. I've seen a couple people on boards say it, as well as Jordan Harper saying it on Twitter.

Guy wanted to leave, and we've found multiple replacements absurdly quick. It's a dead issue at this point, imo.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:24 pm to
I followed his mom on twitter and about a week ago she started retweeting stuff like “know your worth” and “its time to claim your blessing” and I was like yeah they’re about to go bag chasing.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:43 pm to
I follow his mom as well and I agree with you.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:10 pm to
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He was only unexpected for your average fan. Apparently there'd been very quiet rumors he was going to leave, back around mid season. I've seen a couple people on boards say it, as well as Jordan Harper saying it on Twitter.


At the end of the regular season, I would have expected it, probably even predicted it knowing he needed to be convinced to come back for this year. But the way he spoke during and after the tournament run about his coach and team and about how the next goal was a championship; those aren't things typically said by someone about to enter the portal. An extreme level of success has a tendency to change things, so my assumption was that it had. Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:17 pm to
I tried to find the tweet. But Harper said that with the tournament and everything else, he was hoping he'd changed his mind. But he's either gonna go home, or Kansas is gonna do a huge bag at him.

Not sure where his head is at. But I kinda don't care anymore. We've got 2 5th year replacements, one that's was the AAC conference player of the year. We just need a rim protector, and next year is gonna be a dangerous arse hell team.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:24 pm to
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Not sure where his head is at. But I kinda don't care anymore. We've got 2 5th year replacements, one that's was the AAC conference player of the year. We just need a rim protector, and next year is gonna be a dangerous arse hell team.


Same. Though I'd put adding another legitimate PG as a pretty important need as well. Even if Sears comes back, I feel people will start to understand how crucial a role Estrada played on the offensive end, especially if we don't add another PG to the mix.
Posted by GoodTalkRuss
Member since Dec 2019
371 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:50 pm to
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Same. Though I'd put adding another legitimate PG as a pretty important need as well. Even if Sears comes back, I feel people will start to understand how crucial a role Estrada played on the offensive end, especially if we don't add another PG to the mix.


I agree. If Reid is an attacking wing it certainly will help alleviate some pressure on Sears (If he returns). Estrada, even for all the hell he took at times, played downhill and it was vital to opening up our offense. I don't know a ton about Youngblood, but I assume he can be trusted with the ball a bit as well and be a bit of a creator.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:05 am to
PG - Sears
SG - Wrightsell, Mallette
SF - Youngblood, Reid, Dioubate
PF - Nelson, Stevenson, Walters
C - good transfer C, Sherrell, Wague

That would be a badass roster. Even if Sears leaves amd we replace him with a good transfer PG we should be really good.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:29 am
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:43 am to
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Kemba Walker


Yeah. The subject was great defenders in college who aren't tall. Try to keep up.

And for the record I've never said that Griff was irreplaceable. I simply said he was an elite college defender. Which he is. That's it. Then these "Well, ackshually Griff was the lowest rated defender on BAMA's team" posters get on here and beclown themselves because they're butthurt about anyone that transfers.
Griff was a great player for BAMA. He was a 2nd year player and the best defender on a FF team. If that makes you mad, that's your problem. Doesn't it stop it from being a fact, though.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:43 am to
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Chad


Who?
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15942 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:28 am to
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He was a 2nd year player and the best defender on a FF team



Look man just bc you keep saying it doesnt make it true. He averaged 0.5 steals per game and 0.3 blocks per game. That puts him so far down the list of NCAA players that i couldnt even find him in the top 1000. Sears, estrada, and wrightsell were all ahead of him.

Face it man, you're hero was just a cone on defense. We had one of the worst defenses in the whole country. How many times did we give up 100 points? Add in that he talks shite on the team and he never won the hard hat. We dont need him.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2627 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:30 am to
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Face it man, you're hero was just a cone on defense.


Rylan was far from a cone on defense…

>Look man just bc you keep saying it doesnt make it true. He averaged 0.5 steals per game and 0.3 blocks per game. That puts him so far down the list of NCAA players that i couldnt even find him in the top 1000. Sears, estrada, and wrightsell were all ahead of him.


Defense isn’t just steals and blocks…otherwise Curry and Harden would be all time defenders.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 7:31 am
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:00 am to
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Yeah. The subject was great defenders in college who aren't tall. Try to keep up.


And Kemba was never a great defender even in college. Trying does not equate to being a great defender. There are so many good examples of great defenders who were shorter and you chose horrible examples. You could have gone Jevon Carter, Aaron Craft or even went with a different mainstream guy like Chris Paul, but no you chose guys with either good positional length or who were volume scorers that were defensive liabilities at times. Not one of those 3 guards had any defensive accolades, nor were they close to getting them.

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Griff was a great player for BAMA. He was a 2nd year player and the best defender on a FF team. If that makes you mad, that's your problem. Doesn't it stop it from being a fact, though.


Scroll up. I already said this. Try to keep up.
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
386 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:20 am to
Walking into this thread after a weekend off

This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 8:21 am
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25566 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:37 am to
Boogie Fland back in play.

Fland, Sears, and Omiyuri would be a great way to round out the roster
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