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re: Latest Strength-of-Schedule (SOS) rankings of SEC teams
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:46 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:46 am to WG_Dawg
This is the reason I don’t recognize Georgia except 1980. 2021 Alabama top two receivers were out. Alabama wins with those guys which was proven on the field.
Playing TCU doesn’t count.
wtf are you even babbling about? How tough the opponents on your schedule are has less than nothing to do with how good your team is.
If htis is some year-long bama melt about not making the playoffs, it's because you had 2 losses. Period. Yes, bama would have likely smoked TCU but that's why the regular season matters. Win more games then you can make the playoffs.
Playing TCU doesn’t count.
wtf are you even babbling about? How tough the opponents on your schedule are has less than nothing to do with how good your team is.
If htis is some year-long bama melt about not making the playoffs, it's because you had 2 losses. Period. Yes, bama would have likely smoked TCU but that's why the regular season matters. Win more games then you can make the playoffs.
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:54 am to JetDawg
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#94......KENTUCKY
ELO SOS: 1479.3
OR: 15-15
OWP: 0.5000
So take Georgia out of the mix and they've faced teams that are a combined 9-15?
Oof.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:57 am to TideSaint
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So take Georgia out of the mix and they've faced teams that are a combined 9-15?
vs Ball State (1-5)
vs Eastern Kentucky (FCS) (2-3)
vs Akron (1-5)
@ Vanderbilt (2-5)
vs Florida (4-2)
@ Georgia (6-0)
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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vs Ball State (1-5)
vs Eastern Kentucky (FCS) (2-3)
vs Akron (1-5)
@ Vanderbilt (2-5)
vs Florida (4-2)
Georgia getting right makes a lot more sense now.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:03 am to Tjtennispro
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2021 Alabama top two receivers were out. Alabama wins with those guys which was proven on the field.
what was also proven on the field is that UGA played a certain defensein 14/15 games that season but switched up and played differently in one game, the one game we hapened to lose. We switched back to our normal scheme in the title game and bama scored 1 TD which was gifted by a crappy penalty call. Not to mention our best pass rusher and stud pass rushing OLB was lost for the year prior to both meetings, in addition to our #1 stud WR being gimpy.
I guess it all evens out.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 8:04 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
Updated to reflect FBS wins only
vs Ball State (0-5)
vs Eastern Kentucky (FCS) (0-3)
vs Akron (0-5)
@ Vanderbilt (1-5)
vs Florida (3-2)
@ Georgia (5-0)
vs Ball State (0-5)
vs Eastern Kentucky (FCS) (0-3)
vs Akron (0-5)
@ Vanderbilt (1-5)
vs Florida (3-2)
@ Georgia (5-0)
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:28 am to Tjtennispro
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This is the reason I don’t recognize Georgia except 1980
And we couldn't give less of a frick what you recognize. We are back to back, and well on our way to a third. Melt bitch.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:35 am to WG_Dawg
Look UGA ended up winning so I’m not sure why this is even being discussed, but at the end of the day there wasn’t a defense in your playbook that was going to magically give your defensive secondary the ability to keep up with Jamo for 4 quarters and it’s ok to admit that
Turf monster got him on a play where he was wide open down the middle again, and there wasn’t a soul on the field going to catch his arse after that pass. Everyone knows it too. Happened in the 2nd quarter just like the first meeting.
But it did happen, and after him and Metchie were both gone, that was the whole offense that year. UGA deserved to win due to better depth imo
Turf monster got him on a play where he was wide open down the middle again, and there wasn’t a soul on the field going to catch his arse after that pass. Everyone knows it too. Happened in the 2nd quarter just like the first meeting.
But it did happen, and after him and Metchie were both gone, that was the whole offense that year. UGA deserved to win due to better depth imo
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 8:41 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:16 am to JetDawg
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#1 in the nation.....SOUTH CAROLINA!!
ELO SOS: 1604.9
Opponents Record (OR): 19-3
Opponents Win Percent (OWP): 0.8636
How are they getting that the opponents record is 19-3?
NORTH CAROLINA (5-0)
FURMAN (4-1)
GEORGIA (6-0)
MISSISSIPPI STATE (3-3)
TENNESSEE (4-1)
I am not math major, but it looks like 22-5 to me.
I don't doubt that Carolina has played the hardest schedule, just curious how they are working the math. If you take Furman out and just go with FBS teams it is 18-4.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:21 am to HighTide_ATL
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HighTide_ATL
Or as it has been explained in depth, we played a very different defense that game, but sure just blame injuries since apparently Bama is the only team to ever have them.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:25 am to DrewDawg13
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Or as it has been explained in depth,
Again, there wasn't a defense in your playbook that was going to help those safeties keep up with Jamo for 4 quarters.
Turf monster was their best hope, and he answered their prayers. This is evidenced by both Kirby and Lanning admitting as much (Lanning immediately saying so after the injury)
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 9:26 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:26 am to bigDgator
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I am not math major, but it looks like 22-5 to me.
In formulaic analysis (like Sagarin which was posted), they generally don't include games against the team who's being analyzed.
SC is 2-3. So while their opponents are 22-5 overall, they are 19-3 against their schedule not including South Carolina. This way a good team that beats all their opponents isn't penalized for that and a crappy team that loses to all their opponents isn't given a schedule boost for losing.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:29 am to MetryMauler
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Stop spamming the board.
nah let him cook.
honestly I just want one year where we have an easy schedule. Every damn year we are top 5 in SOS. 19-3 is the opponent record...
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:42 am to JetDawg
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#94......KENTUCKY
ELO SOS: 1479.3
OR: 15-15
OWP: 0.5000
And this is AFTER playing Georgia?
Well damn.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:44 am to HighTide_ATL
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t the end of the day there wasn’t a defense in your playbook that was going to magically give your defensive secondary the ability to keep up with Jamo for 4 quarters and it’s ok to admit that
It's also ok for bama fans to admit the other side of hte coin in certain disucssions. As you said it's not worth discussing since no bama fans even wants to budget on the topic despite all evidence presented so oh well. It is a stone cold fact though that in the SECCG we had a 180 degree different game plan than we did in the other 14 games. We played a ton of zone and frequently had a spy on bryce. Go abck and watch the game and you will see MANY instance of our DL simply standing striahg tup at the snap. The idea was to contain bryce and not let him run around and beat us withi his legs. Not sure why we were hellbent on that being the plan, but it's not debatable. Just watch and you can see it wiht your eyes. THen watch the 2nd meeting and it was the exact opposite and we played like we did in literally every othoe rgame that year. We got after the QB, brought pressure, plaeyd more man, etc. And lo and behold we looked night and day different.
Did your receivers being out help us? Of course, only a fool would say otherwise. But it's also silly for bama fans to think that that's the sole reason for hte massifve point discrpenacy in the 2 meetings.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:08 am to WG_Dawg
So just to be clear, your argument is that it has more to do with the idea that you rushed a bit more, and less to do with the fact that Bama was missing two guys that accounted for 70% of the receiving yardage, and 3 TDs from the first meeting?
You're saying it was the pressure your defense applied that affected our offense, and not the missing players that embarrassed UGA's secondary just a month prior?
When Jamo scored his first TD early 2nd quarter in the SECCG, UGA was up 10-0 and Bryce was 44% for 38yds.
When Jamo got injured early 2nd quarter of the Natty on a similar play to his TD from the SECCG, the game was actually tied and Bryce was 73% for 68yds.
Again UGA won the game, so we don't have to discuss this if you don't want to lol
You're saying it was the pressure your defense applied that affected our offense, and not the missing players that embarrassed UGA's secondary just a month prior?
When Jamo scored his first TD early 2nd quarter in the SECCG, UGA was up 10-0 and Bryce was 44% for 38yds.
When Jamo got injured early 2nd quarter of the Natty on a similar play to his TD from the SECCG, the game was actually tied and Bryce was 73% for 68yds.
Again UGA won the game, so we don't have to discuss this if you don't want to lol
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:34 am to HighTide_ATL
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You're saying it was the pressure your defense applied that affected our offense, and not the missing players that embarrassed UGA's secondary just a month prior?
It was also impacted by the fact UGA was starting a walk-on at safety (Dan Jackson) in the SEC. UGA was also without their leading pass rusher, but we didn't get him back for the NC game either. And they had injuries on the OL and in their WR corps that were healed more in the NC game.
The fact that Bama fans seem to miss is that UGA was dealing with large numbers of injuries all season long. And while they were more healed up by the national championship than they were at any other point that season, they were STILL missing a boatload of players.
UGA fans rarely bother to bring this up because depth to handle injuries is part of football. Our WR corps was so messed up the entire season that our starters all year were a RS freshman and a true freshman, both 3-stars. The difference between UGA and Bama was that those players balled out and when Bama had to have their backup WR's step up, they failed.
If UGA had a health George Pickens and Kearis Jackson (their leading WR's from the prior season), they would have been more dominant. But we don't have to make excuses because AD Mitchell and Ladd McConkey both played well as 3-star freshmen backups.
This is why we mock your excuse making. You are blind to the fact your opponents had similar hurdles to overcome because they in fact were able to do so and your team was not.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:21 pm to DawginSC
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It was also impacted by the fact UGA was starting a walk-on at safety (Dan Jackson) in the SEC.
Dan Jackson was #47 correct?
So if I go watch the highlights real quick, I'm not going to see him getting abused by the secondary and not other DBs right? Are you sure about that?
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UGA was also without their leading pass rusher, but we didn't get him back for the NC game either.
Who are we talking about here? At least you recognize this is a poor argument because its purely hypothetical with no precedent.
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The fact that Bama fans seem to miss is that UGA was dealing with large numbers of injuries all season long. And while they were more healed up by the national championship than they were at any other point that season, they were STILL missing a boatload of players.
Nobody's arguing that injuries don't happen. But not all players have the same affect on the game, and the fact remains Bama lost two players that contributed to the majority of the offensive points they scored in the first round. Admitting it won't magically make the championship transfer to Bama so I'm not sure why you're so incapable of doing so.
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UGA fans rarely bother to bring this up because depth to handle injuries is part of football. Our WR corps was so messed up the entire season that our starters all year were a RS freshman and a true freshman, both 3-stars. The difference between UGA and Bama was that those players balled out and when Bama had to have their backup WR's step up, they failed.
The players you played all season faired better than our back up WRs. We're in agreement that's why you won the game.
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If UGA had a health George Pickens and Kearis Jackson (their leading WR's from the prior season), they would have been more dominant. But we don't have to make excuses because AD Mitchell and Ladd McConkey both played well as 3-star freshmen backups.
Maybe. Again no precedent for this. Meanwhile Bama played the natty without a starting CB as well. I know this is often overshadowed by the Jamo injury, but being without Jobe and JAD for the natty obviously challenged our defensive depth as well.
Either way, we know UGA won. It just seems silly to try and pretend it was a "change in defensive philosophy" that was the primary reason UGA won, and not that Bama lost the majority of its offensive production from the SEC CG.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:41 pm to HighTide_ATL
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Again, there wasn't a defense in your playbook that was going to help those safeties keep up with Jamo for 4 quarters.
Turf monster was their best hope, and he answered their prayers. This is evidenced by both Kirby and Lanning admitting as much (Lanning immediately saying so after the injury)
Keep denying facts and melting. It's hilarious.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:08 pm to DrewDawg13
Why don't you understand already? Alabama is the only football team to ever have injuries.
"But we wuz hurt!"
"But we wuz hurt!"
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